boxermom: i guess i havent realy dont anything different then what ive been told by many aquarists that fish cycling is ok,i have done it with all my tansk and have lost no fish to this.with some fish like livebeares i have even bred them to produce healthy offspring.i guess its a matter of opinion weather to cycle with or without fish.running the tank for a week beforehand isnt a bad thing to do, it gives you time to modify the tank if nessary and tests your heaters/filters/etc to make sure they are working fine.floating the bag in the tank is something i have always done, i gradually add bits of tank water to the bag and then net the fish out at the end.i have never know any different as my dad use to do this and hes the one who taught me mostly what i know (he kept fish years back but kept notes, books, etc and gives me advice, granted his methods arnt always modern fish keeping ways but have never faild me.)
please note i would never put a fishes life in danger if i thought it would speed up the cycling time or whatever, isnt that the whole point of fish keeping to look at wonderful, beautiful fish, how can you if they are all dead?
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