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Originally Posted by TheOldSalt
I remember when level was first getting started with his first reeftank. He went to so much effort to study, study, study his little heart out in order to make his project a big success, and it paid off quite nicely. We weren't all there telling him to just slap something together and go for it because it's easy. We were telling him quite the opposite, as I recall, and it made him do everything right the first time. A good system, I think. Don'tcha just love irony?
By the way, level is NOT one of the guys saying it's easy to set up and run a nano without a clue. He just gets overly excited when I get on the case of someone who does say such things.
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i remember that too, and thats the only thing keeping me here, because im am sooooo grateful for all the good advice i recieved, and the only reason im "angry" is because the whole point of all this is completely lost, its not just OLDSALT but many of the people in the salt section, it just seems that the goal of this section is lost in general, it isnt about newbs keeping nano's, its about the approach to the answers, salt made a great point, that a year or two ago, everyone here helped me learn and learn and learn, and it was very exciting, and they all encouraged me to go out online and seek information, and ive come a LONG way since then, but recently, that angle has been lost on FF. it doesnt seem to promote free exchange of info, it seems (to me anyway) to promote personal ideals. instead of giving people ideas on what to do, everyone just tells the newbs what to do, the whole nano issue came up because i made an attempt to defend some people that didnt know what they were doing and it seemed some of the more knowledgable on here were attacking, instead of informing.
but it was a loosing battle in my case since i actually agree that its a bad idea for someone to start with a nano. but thats as far as my opinion can carry me. if someone wants too, i see it nessesary to try to help them to the best of my ability, EXPLAIN what needs to be done and how hard it is, and let a person make their own decision (hopefully the right one)
and then when i defend. i also seem to be attacked. (again, this is just how it seems from my end) i just really want to see this section grow, there are very few users that frequent this area, many come, and never come back. and i just feel that the way many people address questions has alot to do with it, i have no problems with theoldsalt, i guess i just singled him out, because i know he can take it, and to just make an example. but once i did, i dont view anything he said as a personal attack, but im not stupid, and i do know when im being talked down too. and whether he meant it that way or not... it sure is hard to understand intentions when your reading off of an emotionless screen. my whole point in all this is to try to get people to give more advice, and direction, instead of just scareing the hell out or new poeple by telling them they can never achieve it, we dont know any of these poeple, and we sure dont know what they are or are not capable of, so the only way to find out is to talk to them, explain what they need to do, or the many diffrent options to do something, and help them make the best decision.
the nano thing was brought up because that is the single most obvious example of the tone im talking about.