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garfieldnfish · 10-09-2005, 06:01 AM

I have a 15 gal with five dwarf frogs and 2 clown plecos (both about 2") and 3 applesnails. I have to do a 90% water change once a week to remove most of the poop, but my apple snails and frogs have both provided me with offspring, so this setup should be ok. I have lots of driftwood, small gravel and some plants (crypts, lucky bamboo, vals and a dwarf lily) along with a few small terra cotta pots. The clown plecos and the frogs like the same environment, low light, little current and pondlike athmosphere, which is why I believe they make and excellent combo. But the poop factor is enourmous and you have to do your water changes religiously and make them large ones. My setup has been this way for almost 2 years for the frogs and snails, but the clowns were added only about 7 months ago, but they are thrieving. They need the driftwood for digestion so you need to get it fast. If you buy it in a petstore, boiling may not be necessary. I just rinsed mine off and tossed it in the tank. It sank immediately and has been leaking tannin ever since, which gives it the nice colored water look, that the frogs and clowns like.
Clown plecos love the wood most of all. Mine also steal an occasional bloodworm from the frogs and they eat sinking pellets (tetra min the rich mix and algae wafers, shrimp pellets, but the frogs sample that as well.) Try a slice of zucchini or sweet potato. Remove the seeds of the zucchini and place the slice in a bit of water and microwave for about 10 sec. This will soften it up and the clown will eat it if you attach it with a veggie clip or use a plant weight to keep it from floating.
I think a 10 gal with 3 ADFs and a clown will work fine.
BTW I used to have a Burmese Mountain shrimp in this tank as well, but I found him yards away from the tank a few weeks back and I have no clue how he got out of the tank unless it happened during the water change and I did not notice his escape. That worked well with the plecos and the frogs. I also used to have ghost shrimp in this tank before the clowns were added but those routinely disappeared and I hardly ever found a body, so if yours are ghosts don't be surprised if the frogs take them out one by one.

10-09-2005, 06:01 AM	#5
garfieldnfish Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 661	I have a 15 gal with five dwarf frogs and 2 clown plecos (both about 2") and 3 applesnails. I have to do a 90% water change once a week to remove most of the poop, but my apple snails and frogs have both provided me with offspring, so this setup should be ok. I have lots of driftwood, small gravel and some plants (crypts, lucky bamboo, vals and a dwarf lily) along with a few small terra cotta pots. The clown plecos and the frogs like the same environment, low light, little current and pondlike athmosphere, which is why I believe they make and excellent combo. But the poop factor is enourmous and you have to do your water changes religiously and make them large ones. My setup has been this way for almost 2 years for the frogs and snails, but the clowns were added only about 7 months ago, but they are thrieving. They need the driftwood for digestion so you need to get it fast. If you buy it in a petstore, boiling may not be necessary. I just rinsed mine off and tossed it in the tank. It sank immediately and has been leaking tannin ever since, which gives it the nice colored water look, that the frogs and clowns like. Clown plecos love the wood most of all. Mine also steal an occasional bloodworm from the frogs and they eat sinking pellets (tetra min the rich mix and algae wafers, shrimp pellets, but the frogs sample that as well.) Try a slice of zucchini or sweet potato. Remove the seeds of the zucchini and place the slice in a bit of water and microwave for about 10 sec. This will soften it up and the clown will eat it if you attach it with a veggie clip or use a plant weight to keep it from floating. I think a 10 gal with 3 ADFs and a clown will work fine. BTW I used to have a Burmese Mountain shrimp in this tank as well, but I found him yards away from the tank a few weeks back and I have no clue how he got out of the tank unless it happened during the water change and I did not notice his escape. That worked well with the plecos and the frogs. I also used to have ghost shrimp in this tank before the clowns were added but those routinely disappeared and I hardly ever found a body, so if yours are ghosts don't be surprised if the frogs take them out one by one. Last edited by garfieldnfish; 10-09-2005 at 11:33 AM.