Chemi-pure and Ferts

xerxeswasachump · 09-07-2006, 08:24 PM

Would chemi-pure filter out Flourish, Flourish trace, and Blackwater extract?

Also, since i am now using RO water for my tank what other trace elements need to be added? Is discus trace by seachem any good?

**Damon** · 09-07-2006, 08:48 PM

No idea.......... Not sure what it does.

xerxeswasachump · 09-08-2006, 06:48 AM

Wow, i think that's the first time i have ever seen you not have an answer to a question. Wierd.

Chemi-pure is essentially a carbon pad that lasts for 6 months. It is not activated charcoal, but rather a bag filled with resin that is used to absorb all of the stuff carbon would absorb. If i was able to tell you what was in it, would that help?

**Damon** · 09-08-2006, 09:39 AM

After a bit of research, I find that it is not acceptable for planted tanks. Removes too many nutrients.

xerxeswasachump · 09-08-2006, 04:40 PM

oh ok, thanks simpte! So, in a planted tank is chemical filtration compeltely unnecessary?

**Damon** · 09-10-2006, 01:49 PM

yes. All you need is mechanical and a bit of biological (why canisters are favored in planted tanks.)

GumboJones · 09-12-2006, 02:47 PM

Lets say someone was given some poor advice and was currently useing chemi-pure in their heavily planted tank. What nutrients does it remove? Since I'm that someone, I'm wondering if you could post where you read about what chemi-pure removes so I can replace it in my planted tank.

**Damon** · 09-12-2006, 03:40 PM

http://www.boydenterprisesonline.com/pages/2/index.htm

GumboJones · 09-13-2006, 08:21 PM

Two things about that description..

1) it says that no water changes are neccessary for possibly 5 years. I find that pretty difficult to believe.

2) I didn't really see anything on there that implied it was bad for plants...but to be fair, I have severe ADD and might have just missed it..did I?

xerxeswasachump · 09-14-2006, 06:19 AM

Yeah Jimbo, im a doofus. On the bright side, that chemi-pure is going to be useful to have on hand for getting rid of medications and such and will probably never go bad considering hwo infrequently it will now be used.

EDIT: in the FAQ off that site it claims that chemi-pure won't remove trace elements significantly. Also, what the hell is all of this ion-exchange business? Also, it claims that the vitamins are actually beneficial to plants. It this dude completely insane?

**Damon** · 09-14-2006, 08:09 AM

Well all life needs vitamins, but it does say it removes ammonia and nitrogenous waste which is the primary food for plants (NH3,NO2,NO3). So they are not telling a "lie" but its not miracle grow if thats what you mean.

09-07-2006, 08:24 PM	#1
xerxeswasachump no snakes alive... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ Age: 24 Posts: 237 User Feedback: (0)	Chemi-pure and Ferts Would chemi-pure filter out Flourish, Flourish trace, and Blackwater extract? Also, since i am now using RO water for my tank what other trace elements need to be added? Is discus trace by seachem any good? __________________ 46 Gallon Planted Tank: 1 bolivian ram, 1 angelfish, 12 glo-lite tetras, 2 colomesus asellus, 8 japonica shrimp

09-07-2006, 08:48 PM	#2
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	No idea.......... Not sure what it does. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

09-08-2006, 06:48 AM	#3
xerxeswasachump no snakes alive... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ Age: 24 Posts: 237 User Feedback: (0)	Wow, i think that's the first time i have ever seen you not have an answer to a question. Wierd. Chemi-pure is essentially a carbon pad that lasts for 6 months. It is not activated charcoal, but rather a bag filled with resin that is used to absorb all of the stuff carbon would absorb. If i was able to tell you what was in it, would that help? __________________ 46 Gallon Planted Tank: 1 bolivian ram, 1 angelfish, 12 glo-lite tetras, 2 colomesus asellus, 8 japonica shrimp

09-08-2006, 09:39 AM	#4
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	After a bit of research, I find that it is not acceptable for planted tanks. Removes too many nutrients. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

09-08-2006, 04:40 PM	#5
xerxeswasachump no snakes alive... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ Age: 24 Posts: 237 User Feedback: (0)	oh ok, thanks simpte! So, in a planted tank is chemical filtration compeltely unnecessary? __________________ 46 Gallon Planted Tank: 1 bolivian ram, 1 angelfish, 12 glo-lite tetras, 2 colomesus asellus, 8 japonica shrimp

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09-10-2006, 01:49 PM	#6
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	yes. All you need is mechanical and a bit of biological (why canisters are favored in planted tanks.) __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

09-12-2006, 02:47 PM	#7
GumboJones Shrimp-O Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 118 User Feedback: (0)	Lets say someone was given some poor advice and was currently useing chemi-pure in their heavily planted tank. What nutrients does it remove? Since I'm that someone, I'm wondering if you could post where you read about what chemi-pure removes so I can replace it in my planted tank. __________________ ________________________ 30 Gallon Tall heavily planted tank w/ Driftwood -1 Micky Mouse Sword Tail -2 Female platy -3 Guppies -6 Serpae Tetras -3 Ghost shrimp -1 Macrobrachium Shrimp -1 Common pleco -1 Transparent knife fish -2 Bolivian Rams -3 Otto cats -3 Apple snails

09-12-2006, 03:40 PM	#8
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	http://www.boydenterprisesonline.com/pages/2/index.htm __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

09-13-2006, 08:21 PM	#9
GumboJones Shrimp-O Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 118 User Feedback: (0)	Two things about that description.. 1) it says that no water changes are neccessary for possibly 5 years. I find that pretty difficult to believe. 2) I didn't really see anything on there that implied it was bad for plants...but to be fair, I have severe ADD and might have just missed it..did I? __________________ ________________________ 30 Gallon Tall heavily planted tank w/ Driftwood -1 Micky Mouse Sword Tail -2 Female platy -3 Guppies -6 Serpae Tetras -3 Ghost shrimp -1 Macrobrachium Shrimp -1 Common pleco -1 Transparent knife fish -2 Bolivian Rams -3 Otto cats -3 Apple snails

09-14-2006, 06:19 AM	#10
xerxeswasachump no snakes alive... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ Age: 24 Posts: 237 User Feedback: (0)	Yeah Jimbo, im a doofus. On the bright side, that chemi-pure is going to be useful to have on hand for getting rid of medications and such and will probably never go bad considering hwo infrequently it will now be used. EDIT: in the FAQ off that site it claims that chemi-pure won't remove trace elements significantly. Also, what the hell is all of this ion-exchange business? Also, it claims that the vitamins are actually beneficial to plants. It this dude completely insane? __________________ 46 Gallon Planted Tank: 1 bolivian ram, 1 angelfish, 12 glo-lite tetras, 2 colomesus asellus, 8 japonica shrimp Last edited by xerxeswasachump; 09-14-2006 at 06:33 AM.

09-14-2006, 08:09 AM	#11
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	Well all life needs vitamins, but it does say it removes ammonia and nitrogenous waste which is the primary food for plants (NH3,NO2,NO3). So they are not telling a "lie" but its not miracle grow if thats what you mean. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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