ph and plants

frogman5 · 06-28-2007, 08:44 PM

MY ph sits at about 8.0 and have a hard time keepin plants since they dont like that ph so much is there any plants that can tolerate a high ph

emc7 · 06-28-2007, 09:36 PM

Yes, some plants do. Hornwort for one.

**Damon** · 06-29-2007, 04:10 AM

For most plants, PH isn't a factor. Most common and even some uncommon ones do not care about a ph of 8. You are having other issues that are causing your plants trouble.

frogman5 · 06-29-2007, 09:52 AM

then i have no idea then in my 10 gallon i have 2 20 watt flourescant bulbs eco complete and i cant seem to keep any plants except java moss alive and one i dont know wat it is called

**JustOneMore20** · 06-29-2007, 10:04 AM

Do you have CO2 or fertilize?

I have had problems keeping plants alive in my Malawi tank that has a pH around 8, but I didn't have alot of light or fertilize, so I know those had a big impact.

Java fern is about the only plant that works in there.

frogman5 · 06-29-2007, 12:44 PM

i do use a ype of fertilizer but it i dont believe it is that nice of fertilizer and no i dont have co2

**Damon** · 06-29-2007, 04:55 PM

40 watts of what type of lighting over a 10 gallon tank? that is a lot of light and without the proper ferts you will starve the plants quickly.

emc7 · 06-29-2007, 08:10 PM

Is hardness an issue? I can't keep val or swords in my malawi tanks, but they do well in my softwater tanks.

**Damon** · 06-30-2007, 08:32 AM

Not usually, and normally not with common swords and vals. Swords need a good root structure and secure base. Malawians can uproot them very easily until they are established and could be the problem. I keep swords in a ph of 8 just fine (water is liquid rock where I live). Swords need lots of nutrients also and a deprived substrate will force them to draw from the water column sooner than usual, depleting it as well if not replaced regularly.

06-28-2007, 08:44 PM	#1
frogman5 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 255	ph and plants MY ph sits at about 8.0 and have a hard time keepin plants since they dont like that ph so much is there any plants that can tolerate a high ph

06-29-2007, 04:10 AM	#3
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	For most plants, PH isn't a factor. Most common and even some uncommon ones do not care about a ph of 8. You are having other issues that are causing your plants trouble. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

06-29-2007, 10:04 AM	#5
JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 22 Posts: 3,581	Do you have CO2 or fertilize? I have had problems keeping plants alive in my Malawi tank that has a pH around 8, but I didn't have alot of light or fertilize, so I know those had a big impact. Java fern is about the only plant that works in there. __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 20g, 5.5g

06-29-2007, 04:55 PM	#7
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	40 watts of what type of lighting over a 10 gallon tank? that is a lot of light and without the proper ferts you will starve the plants quickly. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

06-30-2007, 08:32 AM	#9
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	Not usually, and normally not with common swords and vals. Swords need a good root structure and secure base. Malawians can uproot them very easily until they are established and could be the problem. I keep swords in a ph of 8 just fine (water is liquid rock where I live). Swords need lots of nutrients also and a deprived substrate will force them to draw from the water column sooner than usual, depleting it as well if not replaced regularly. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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06-28-2007, 09:36 PM	#2
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,296	Yes, some plants do. Hornwort for one.

06-29-2007, 09:52 AM	#4
frogman5 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 255	then i have no idea then in my 10 gallon i have 2 20 watt flourescant bulbs eco complete and i cant seem to keep any plants except java moss alive and one i dont know wat it is called

06-29-2007, 12:44 PM	#6
frogman5 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 255	i do use a ype of fertilizer but it i dont believe it is that nice of fertilizer and no i dont have co2

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emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,296	Is hardness an issue? I can't keep val or swords in my malawi tanks, but they do well in my softwater tanks.

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