Plants turning brown.

dwool36 · 04-14-2006, 06:56 AM

I recently had to shuffle some plants due to over growth. They are now turning brown. It is mainly my wisteria, amazon sword and corkscrew. Is this normal and is there anything I can do?

**Damon** · 04-14-2006, 08:50 AM

Anything else change? Are these plant sbeing shaded now? Is it the top or bottom of the plant? More info needed.

dwool36 · 04-14-2006, 03:02 PM

Nothing else is different. The water conditions and lighting are identical (maybe fewer nitrates). It is the tops of the plants going about half way down.

dmarcus · 04-14-2006, 04:22 PM

if your not already adding co2 you could try that, flourish excel is great and made my tank much more robust, its made by seachem.

**Damon** · 04-14-2006, 04:28 PM

That won't stop the plants from turning brown. Are the plants themself brown, or are they being covered with a brown substance? Are you adding any ferts? Stocking levels? Plants affected (again). Tank size (again).

dwool36 · 04-14-2006, 05:43 PM

It is a 10 gallon. The plants affected are wisteria, amazon sword and corkscrew. I use Flourish weekly and excel every 3 days. The plants were all fine before I moved them around and have been for some time until now. Upon further inspection, they are not brown...they are turning tranparent? Please see pics. Before the move, they were a very vivid green. Occupants are two blue rams and two ottos.

**Damon** · 04-15-2006, 12:32 PM

Thats an easy one to diagnose.
Lack of Iron.
Moving the plants has caused the roots to also be moved. The plant must now search out new sources of iron (its an immobile nutrient). Prune leaves and either wait or add iron to the tank.

**Damon** · 04-15-2006, 12:32 PM

As a side note, excel may be killing your vals.

dwool36 · 04-15-2006, 03:53 PM

Awesome...add iron and stop using Excel. Thanks!

**Damon** · 04-16-2006, 08:57 AM

Use a half dose of excel.

xerxeswasachump · 04-18-2006, 12:56 PM

Hey, just out of curiosity, what is your pH? Do you do anything to manipulate the water for the rams?

dwool36 · 04-18-2006, 02:07 PM

I use ro water and pete filter. Ph is 6.4

04-14-2006, 06:56 AM	#1
dwool36 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 312 User Feedback: (2)	Plants turning brown. I recently had to shuffle some plants due to over growth. They are now turning brown. It is mainly my wisteria, amazon sword and corkscrew. Is this normal and is there anything I can do?

04-14-2006, 08:50 AM	#2
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	Anything else change? Are these plant sbeing shaded now? Is it the top or bottom of the plant? More info needed. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

04-14-2006, 04:22 PM	#4
dmarcus Plant crazy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 75 User Feedback: (0)	if your not already adding co2 you could try that, flourish excel is great and made my tank much more robust, its made by seachem. __________________ Plant fool 5 gallon Bowl 1 paradise fish 10 gallon 2 australian rainbow fish, 1 veilltailed blue ram 29 gallon heavily planted, 1 clown pleco, 2 bolivian rams, 7 amano shrimp, 1 bamboo shrimp, 3 yoyo loaches, 6 featherfin rainbow fish, 2 dwarf neon flame gouramis

04-14-2006, 04:28 PM	#5
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	That won't stop the plants from turning brown. Are the plants themself brown, or are they being covered with a brown substance? Are you adding any ferts? Stocking levels? Plants affected (again). Tank size (again). __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

04-14-2006, 05:43 PM	#6
dwool36 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 312 User Feedback: (2)	It is a 10 gallon. The plants affected are wisteria, amazon sword and corkscrew. I use Flourish weekly and excel every 3 days. The plants were all fine before I moved them around and have been for some time until now. Upon further inspection, they are not brown...they are turning tranparent? Please see pics. Before the move, they were a very vivid green. Occupants are two blue rams and two ottos. Last edited by dwool36; 04-15-2006 at 07:06 AM.

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04-14-2006, 03:02 PM	#3
dwool36 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 312 User Feedback: (2)	Nothing else is different. The water conditions and lighting are identical (maybe fewer nitrates). It is the tops of the plants going about half way down.

04-15-2006, 12:32 PM	#7
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	Thats an easy one to diagnose. Lack of Iron. Moving the plants has caused the roots to also be moved. The plant must now search out new sources of iron (its an immobile nutrient). Prune leaves and either wait or add iron to the tank. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

04-15-2006, 03:53 PM	#9
dwool36 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 312 User Feedback: (2)	Awesome...add iron and stop using Excel. Thanks!

04-16-2006, 08:57 AM	#10
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	Use a half dose of excel. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

04-18-2006, 12:56 PM	#11
xerxeswasachump no snakes alive... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ Age: 24 Posts: 237 User Feedback: (0)	Hey, just out of curiosity, what is your pH? Do you do anything to manipulate the water for the rams? __________________ 46 Gallon Planted Tank: 1 bolivian ram, 1 angelfish, 12 glo-lite tetras, 2 colomesus asellus, 8 japonica shrimp

04-18-2006, 02:07 PM	#12
dwool36 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 312 User Feedback: (2)	I use ro water and pete filter. Ph is 6.4

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