Paludarium for a turtle

fishbone · 07-06-2007, 04:29 PM

I currently have a paludarium set-up for brackish conditions and I've got 9 fiddler crabs. I'm considering the possibility that, after the last one kicks the bucket, to convert this medium into a turtle tank IF it's adequate.
It's a standard 75 gallon divided in half. Half beach [pool filter sand] and half water, about 10 gallons worth of it. Both sides are about 22 inches in length, I forget the width.
Would this be adequate for any kind of turtle?

fishbguy · 07-06-2007, 04:35 PM

not that i can think of. if you changed the water to fresh it could serve as a grow out tank for them but you would eventually need to make the whole tank water if you were going for water turtles such as painteds, sliders, or mud or mush turtles, but if you were going for land turtles such as box, or russian tortoises, you would need to get rid of the divider and the water and make the water section just a large water bowl. if you want to keep it the way it is i would go with mud skippers and bumble bee gobies.

flamingo · 07-06-2007, 05:30 PM

BB gobies would be eaten by a mudskipper.

But I agree that you have two extremes that wouldn't suit both "types" of turtles well. Aquatic turtles would need almost the entire tank to swim, not a few gallons. Land turtles also wouldn't fare well with that much water. Either dedicate it to one, or the other.

If you go the aquatic route, you'd be needing about maybe 10 percent land area, or a simple place for them to get out and bask. Daily water changes would be best, or 50-100% per week. Make sure you have the correct lighting, and feed the right diet, supplements, etc.- aquatics are notorious for "shell curl", etc. otherwise.

HTH

fishbone · 07-06-2007, 11:40 PM

Oh boo! So basically this paludarium stays for crabs/crays, mudskippers or the like. That or it's a tear-down.
Thanks everyone. I was even thinking of getting a slider turtle or 2 for my outdoors 8k gallon pond but:
a) I have a cat and the occasional raccoon that would find them tasty
b) there's no walls or anything so they'd wander away

Too bad. No other turtle species that stay small?

MaelStrom · 07-07-2007, 01:45 AM

Im not sure how aqautic turtles would take to brackish waters... Im not even sure if there are readily available turtles that would thrive ina brackish tank ....

fishbguy · 07-07-2007, 03:37 AM

brackish turtles...i think terrripins are brackish but either way, you would need a completely different set up than what you have.

fishbone · 07-07-2007, 04:30 AM

Oh, no no, I would go freshwater, I would not stay brackish

07-06-2007, 04:29 PM	#1
fishbone Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 406 User Feedback: (0)	Paludarium for a turtle I currently have a paludarium set-up for brackish conditions and I've got 9 fiddler crabs. I'm considering the possibility that, after the last one kicks the bucket, to convert this medium into a turtle tank IF it's adequate. It's a standard 75 gallon divided in half. Half beach [pool filter sand] and half water, about 10 gallons worth of it. Both sides are about 22 inches in length, I forget the width. Would this be adequate for any kind of turtle? __________________ My YouTube aquaria videos

07-06-2007, 04:35 PM	#2
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 16 Posts: 1,842 User Feedback: (1)	not that i can think of. if you changed the water to fresh it could serve as a grow out tank for them but you would eventually need to make the whole tank water if you were going for water turtles such as painteds, sliders, or mud or mush turtles, but if you were going for land turtles such as box, or russian tortoises, you would need to get rid of the divider and the water and make the water section just a large water bowl. if you want to keep it the way it is i would go with mud skippers and bumble bee gobies. __________________ She went away, she cut me like a knife Hello beautiful thing, maybe you could save my life In just a glance, down here on magic street Loves a fool's dance And I ain't got much sense, but I still got my feet The girls in their summer clothes In the cool of the evening light The girls in their summer clothes, pass me by

07-06-2007, 05:30 PM	#3
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 16 Posts: 1,897 User Feedback: (2)	BB gobies would be eaten by a mudskipper. But I agree that you have two extremes that wouldn't suit both "types" of turtles well. Aquatic turtles would need almost the entire tank to swim, not a few gallons. Land turtles also wouldn't fare well with that much water. Either dedicate it to one, or the other. If you go the aquatic route, you'd be needing about maybe 10 percent land area, or a simple place for them to get out and bask. Daily water changes would be best, or 50-100% per week. Make sure you have the correct lighting, and feed the right diet, supplements, etc.- aquatics are notorious for "shell curl", etc. otherwise. HTH __________________ Color exists only in the mind. . Am I only a thought?

07-06-2007, 11:40 PM	#4
fishbone Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 406 User Feedback: (0)	Oh boo! So basically this paludarium stays for crabs/crays, mudskippers or the like. That or it's a tear-down. Thanks everyone. I was even thinking of getting a slider turtle or 2 for my outdoors 8k gallon pond but: a) I have a cat and the occasional raccoon that would find them tasty b) there's no walls or anything so they'd wander away Too bad. No other turtle species that stay small? __________________ My YouTube aquaria videos

07-07-2007, 03:37 AM	#6
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 16 Posts: 1,842 User Feedback: (1)	brackish turtles...i think terrripins are brackish but either way, you would need a completely different set up than what you have. __________________ She went away, she cut me like a knife Hello beautiful thing, maybe you could save my life In just a glance, down here on magic street Loves a fool's dance And I ain't got much sense, but I still got my feet The girls in their summer clothes In the cool of the evening light The girls in their summer clothes, pass me by

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MaelStrom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 173 User Feedback: (0)	Im not sure how aqautic turtles would take to brackish waters... Im not even sure if there are readily available turtles that would thrive ina brackish tank ....

07-07-2007, 04:30 AM	#7
fishbone Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 406 User Feedback: (0)	Oh, no no, I would go freshwater, I would not stay brackish __________________ My YouTube aquaria videos

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