Cycle with fish

jeffm1000 · 10-18-2006, 04:37 PM

I'm doing a cycle with fish. 2 cory cats, 5 neons, 6 zebra danios. I feed daily, 10% changes daily. After 3 weeks still no sign of nitrite. Can I do anything to speed things up. I've even been adding "Cycle" every few days. Any helpful advice is appreciated.

Zoe · 10-18-2006, 04:47 PM

Have you had an ammonia spike?

Puffer Pita · 10-18-2006, 04:50 PM

"Cycle" is worthless. Do you have any plants in the tank? How big is the tank?

**Scuba Kid** · 10-18-2006, 04:52 PM

neons will most likely not survive a cycle.
I would reccomend getting bio spira. this will speed your cycle up dramatically, like a few days, and it may very well save most, if not all your fish.

jeffm1000 · 10-18-2006, 05:54 PM

OK, I'll try the bio-spira tomorrow. Most of the reviews I've read all say it's bologna but I'll give it a shot for fish sake!

Puffer Pita · 10-18-2006, 06:12 PM

I've not found anyone it hasn't worked for and I've personally used it in about 10 of my 14 tanks with great success.

jeffm1000 · 10-18-2006, 06:14 PM

I'm on top of it. Will post results as soon as I know something. Thanks for the help and quick reply everyone!

**Scuba Kid** · 10-18-2006, 06:22 PM

I don't know what reviews you're reading because I've also used it with great success in most of my tanks.

Moses · 10-19-2006, 03:57 AM

I use Seachem Stability for cycling with a few comets.

Puffer Pita · 10-19-2006, 07:40 AM

Stability, Cycle, etc., do not have the correct live bacteria. Biospira is the only readily available product that does.

Zoe · 10-19-2006, 08:45 AM

Does Cycle do absolutely nothing? I used to use it and never had any problems using it to cycle a tank? odd...

Puffer Pita · 10-19-2006, 08:47 AM

Well yes, it does do something. Wastes money.

Honestly though, it doesn't have the right kind of live bacteria needed for the nitrification cycle.

Zoe · 10-19-2006, 09:36 AM

Well, when I first got a tank, I got the better part of bottle of it for free, so, I didn't pay for it myself

But why did the tank still cycle okay? I didn't test the water parameters but I added all my fish a couple days later with no ill results.

Puffer Pita · 10-19-2006, 09:47 AM

If you didn't test the water parameters, how do you know it worked?

Many fish can survive cycling, but it damages their long term health and they will die prematurely.

Zoe · 10-19-2006, 10:02 AM

Good point!

jeffm1000 · 10-19-2006, 10:15 AM

30 gallon tank and I just added a pack of bio spira rated for up to 30 gallons. Hope to see results in a few days. It says overnite, however, I'm not that hopeful. Hoping to see a trace of nitrites soon!

Zoe · 10-19-2006, 10:38 AM

Keep an eye on your parameters, it may take only a day. Once the cycle is complete you don't want to leave the tank without any fish for too long, or the bacteria will die off.

Puffer Pita · 10-19-2006, 10:42 AM

I think he has it full of fish, no?

jeffm1000 · 10-19-2006, 10:43 AM

there are fish in it now

Zoe · 10-19-2006, 11:03 AM

Oh! oops, my bad.

-takes foot out of mouth-

10-18-2006, 04:37 PM	#1
jeffm1000 Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 28	Cycle with fish I'm doing a cycle with fish. 2 cory cats, 5 neons, 6 zebra danios. I feed daily, 10% changes daily. After 3 weeks still no sign of nitrite. Can I do anything to speed things up. I've even been adding "Cycle" every few days. Any helpful advice is appreciated.

10-18-2006, 04:47 PM	#2
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	Have you had an ammonia spike? __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

10-18-2006, 04:50 PM	#3
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,677	"Cycle" is worthless. Do you have any plants in the tank? How big is the tank? __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

10-18-2006, 04:52 PM	#4
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,160	neons will most likely not survive a cycle. I would reccomend getting bio spira. this will speed your cycle up dramatically, like a few days, and it may very well save most, if not all your fish. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

10-18-2006, 06:12 PM	#6
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,677	I've not found anyone it hasn't worked for and I've personally used it in about 10 of my 14 tanks with great success. __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

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10-18-2006, 05:54 PM	#5
jeffm1000 Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 28	OK, I'll try the bio-spira tomorrow. Most of the reviews I've read all say it's bologna but I'll give it a shot for fish sake!

10-18-2006, 06:14 PM	#7
jeffm1000 Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 28	I'm on top of it. Will post results as soon as I know something. Thanks for the help and quick reply everyone!

10-18-2006, 06:22 PM	#8
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,160	I don't know what reviews you're reading because I've also used it with great success in most of my tanks. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

10-19-2006, 03:57 AM	#9
Moses Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 43	I use Seachem Stability for cycling with a few comets.

10-19-2006, 07:40 AM	#10
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,677	Stability, Cycle, etc., do not have the correct live bacteria. Biospira is the only readily available product that does. __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

10-19-2006, 08:45 AM	#11
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	Does Cycle do absolutely nothing? I used to use it and never had any problems using it to cycle a tank? odd... __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

10-19-2006, 08:47 AM	#12
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,677	Well yes, it does do something. Wastes money. Honestly though, it doesn't have the right kind of live bacteria needed for the nitrification cycle. __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

10-19-2006, 09:36 AM	#13
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	Well, when I first got a tank, I got the better part of bottle of it for free, so, I didn't pay for it myself But why did the tank still cycle okay? I didn't test the water parameters but I added all my fish a couple days later with no ill results. __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

10-19-2006, 09:47 AM	#14
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,677	If you didn't test the water parameters, how do you know it worked? Many fish can survive cycling, but it damages their long term health and they will die prematurely. __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

10-19-2006, 10:02 AM	#15
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	Good point! __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

10-19-2006, 10:15 AM	#16
jeffm1000 Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 28	30 gallon tank and I just added a pack of bio spira rated for up to 30 gallons. Hope to see results in a few days. It says overnite, however, I'm not that hopeful. Hoping to see a trace of nitrites soon!

10-19-2006, 10:38 AM	#17
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	Keep an eye on your parameters, it may take only a day. Once the cycle is complete you don't want to leave the tank without any fish for too long, or the bacteria will die off. __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

10-19-2006, 10:42 AM	#18
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,677	I think he has it full of fish, no? __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

10-19-2006, 10:43 AM	#19
jeffm1000 Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 28	there are fish in it now

10-19-2006, 11:03 AM	#20
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	Oh! oops, my bad. -takes foot out of mouth- __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

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