Freshwater crabs/shrimp/frogs?

RazorDX · 11-23-2006, 12:52 PM

Are there any good crabs/shrimp/frogs that would go well in a freshwater community tank? I know of several kinds of shrimp, and will have a few ghost shrimp... I also know of Red Clawed Crabs, but do not want to go that route because they prefer a bit of salinity. I did a couple searches but didn't find much. What would you all recommend?

By the way, this is for my 29/37g that I am planning, which will have quite a few tetras and other small fish; keeping them from being a snack is a concern of high priority for me.

Thanks in advance!

Zoe · 11-23-2006, 01:17 PM

There are some blue 'lobsters / crayfish, but they'd get too big.

You could get african dwarf frogs.
Lots of shrimp choices: cherry shrimp, ghost shrimp, amano shrimp, fan/bamboo/rock shrimp.

How about some FW clams?

Puffer Pita · 11-23-2006, 01:21 PM

FW clams do not live generally more than a week, usually less, in aquaria. Most lobsters/crayfish/crabs need slightly brackish water. African Dwarf Frogs are a great choice, stay very small and are extremely peaceful. Care must be taken to ensure that they eat, though, because they tend to take awhile to find the food and the fish often devour it all before they get too it.

Zoe · 11-23-2006, 01:29 PM

I've heard it can go both ways, with FW Clams. I've had some for a while now and they're doing fine. Previous owner said she had them for a year. I've heard of good experiences from other people, too. But, I've also heard of them not lasting long. Hit or miss, I guess.

Puffer Pita · 11-23-2006, 01:53 PM

Thus, the "generally" part.

I had two dozen, all dead within three days. Everyone else I know of that have tried to keep them, especially because they're great puffer foods, have not been successful at keeping them. You're the first person I've ever seen who has had any long-ish term success.

harif87 · 11-23-2006, 02:18 PM

Ive had a FW clam for a couple of months now, seems to be doing good. Not much fun to watch though since..well he doesnt do much lol.

By definition all lobsters need SW. FW "lobsters" are called crays, so you wont be keeping any lobsters, but you can keep some crays. Certain blue crays such as the Procambarus Alleni can live in a 30g tank but youll only be able to have one. If you want to keep more than one i would suggest the Procambarus Vioscai which get to be around 2 inches but are not blue (theyre brown). Just dont plan on keeping any crayfish with plants since your plant will -without a doubt- be demolished by the cray.

Zoe · 11-23-2006, 02:29 PM

Sorry, I meant that they call the crays (around here, anyway) lobsters. I should elaborated.

I won't claim any long-term experience with FW clams, even 'ish' - but so far, so good! Maybe you got a bad batch? Yuck, I bet it was no fun when they all died ><

11-23-2006, 12:52 PM	#1
RazorDX Fishy Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 26	Freshwater crabs/shrimp/frogs? Are there any good crabs/shrimp/frogs that would go well in a freshwater community tank? I know of several kinds of shrimp, and will have a few ghost shrimp... I also know of Red Clawed Crabs, but do not want to go that route because they prefer a bit of salinity. I did a couple searches but didn't find much. What would you all recommend? By the way, this is for my 29/37g that I am planning, which will have quite a few tetras and other small fish; keeping them from being a snack is a concern of high priority for me. Thanks in advance!

11-23-2006, 01:17 PM	#2
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	There are some blue 'lobsters / crayfish, but they'd get too big. You could get african dwarf frogs. Lots of shrimp choices: cherry shrimp, ghost shrimp, amano shrimp, fan/bamboo/rock shrimp. How about some FW clams? __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

11-23-2006, 01:21 PM	#3
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,677	FW clams do not live generally more than a week, usually less, in aquaria. Most lobsters/crayfish/crabs need slightly brackish water. African Dwarf Frogs are a great choice, stay very small and are extremely peaceful. Care must be taken to ensure that they eat, though, because they tend to take awhile to find the food and the fish often devour it all before they get too it. __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

11-23-2006, 01:29 PM	#4
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	I've heard it can go both ways, with FW Clams. I've had some for a while now and they're doing fine. Previous owner said she had them for a year. I've heard of good experiences from other people, too. But, I've also heard of them not lasting long. Hit or miss, I guess. __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

11-23-2006, 01:53 PM	#5
Puffer Pita Puffer Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,677	Thus, the "generally" part. I had two dozen, all dead within three days. Everyone else I know of that have tried to keep them, especially because they're great puffer foods, have not been successful at keeping them. You're the first person I've ever seen who has had any long-ish term success. __________________ Tina Puffers: Auriglobus silus x2 Colomesus asellus x1 Tetraodon travancoricus x1 Tetraodon biocellatus x2 Tetraodon nigroviridis x1 Tetraodon baileyi x2 Tetraodon lineatus x1 Tetraodon palembangensis x1 The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated. - Mohandas Gandhi

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11-23-2006, 02:18 PM	#6
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 990	Ive had a FW clam for a couple of months now, seems to be doing good. Not much fun to watch though since..well he doesnt do much lol. By definition all lobsters need SW. FW "lobsters" are called crays, so you wont be keeping any lobsters, but you can keep some crays. Certain blue crays such as the Procambarus Alleni can live in a 30g tank but youll only be able to have one. If you want to keep more than one i would suggest the Procambarus Vioscai which get to be around 2 inches but are not blue (theyre brown). Just dont plan on keeping any crayfish with plants since your plant will -without a doubt- be demolished by the cray. __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

11-23-2006, 02:29 PM	#7
Zoe <·)))< Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 1,030	Sorry, I meant that they call the crays (around here, anyway) lobsters. I should elaborated. I won't claim any long-term experience with FW clams, even 'ish' - but so far, so good! Maybe you got a bad batch? Yuck, I bet it was no fun when they all died >< __________________ 90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco 28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose 16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs 8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish

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