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**Damon** · 12-16-2006, 05:45 PM

a 55 gallon tank is 48x13x21. A 65 is 36x19x24. Not really close in dimensions.

h_sheltie · 12-16-2006, 05:48 PM

I mean I will sell them back to the pet store when they 5-6 inches.

Mazzy · 12-16-2006, 06:00 PM

They do need a bigger tank but mine was in a 65. That doesn't mean it was a good idea but kinda like with the outside rocks, I didn't have any ill effects. However, the front did scrape himself up from time to time trying to manuever in such a small space for him.
I'm definitely not saying it was a good idea when I did it either. It was my first tanganikan, like yours, and it led the way to my interest in many other tangs, but, if any human can even awnser this question, I would have to say, he probably wasn't "happy".

Good Luck with whatever you decide to do. I hope your front/s do/es as well as mine did - and that they end up in atank well suited to them as they grow up.

Mazzy · 12-16-2006, 06:17 PM

Damon, you are describing a breeder - mine was not. 4 ft. x 12" x 18"? or maybe 24"? high - don't know I sold it, too hard to clean - too deep

At any rate, what my I'm getting at is that my tank was also 4 ft long, and my tank was also about a foot from front to back, it was just taller. So h_sheltie's frontosas will have that amount of swimming area with a potential size of much larger than mine in the pic - since fish don't swim up and down

fyi - I just realized in that pic, you can plainly see that my tank was taller because the background is not reaching the bottom of the tank

nice

Gourami Swami · 12-17-2006, 07:18 AM

55 is not big enough for frontosas for life- it is too narrow.

I think you have a plan there, though. Fronts grow slowly, and stores are usually interested in buying some mid-sized ones. I would grow them out to 5".

h_sheltie · 12-17-2006, 11:15 AM

Sorry for all the questions, but just one more. If it's not safe to use rocks from outside what type of rock should I buy and who would have them?

Mazzy · 12-17-2006, 11:28 AM

You can buy rocks at the fish store but they will be pricey. I bought lava rock and slate from a local garden center and that worked fine. Lava rock is lava rock and slate, slate no matter where you purchase it.

Gourami Swami · 12-17-2006, 12:33 PM

I took all my rocks from all my tanks from my backyard. Make sure they are rather plain looking with no obvious mineral deposits or "flecks", scrub them good, and wala, free rocks.

judya · 12-19-2006, 06:44 PM

My friend had his frontosas in a 240 gallon tank - they were breeding and they actually got him some decent money in fish store trade. I think he had a harem colony - mostly females with maybe two males?

Mazzy · 12-20-2006, 08:22 AM

The person who bought my Front did the same thing with the several females and just my male in the tank. I don't know about breeding Fronts but maybe that's just the way you do it??

12-16-2006, 05:45 PM	#21
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	a 55 gallon tank is 48x13x21. A 65 is 36x19x24. Not really close in dimensions. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

12-16-2006, 06:00 PM	#23
Mazzy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Adrian, Michigan Posts: 129	They do need a bigger tank but mine was in a 65. That doesn't mean it was a good idea but kinda like with the outside rocks, I didn't have any ill effects. However, the front did scrape himself up from time to time trying to manuever in such a small space for him. I'm definitely not saying it was a good idea when I did it either. It was my first tanganikan, like yours, and it led the way to my interest in many other tangs, but, if any human can even awnser this question, I would have to say, he probably wasn't "happy". Good Luck with whatever you decide to do. I hope your front/s do/es as well as mine did - and that they end up in atank well suited to them as they grow up. __________________ "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into PEACE!" ~Michael Franti Last edited by Mazzy; 12-16-2006 at 06:02 PM.

12-16-2006, 06:17 PM	#24
Mazzy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Adrian, Michigan Posts: 129	Damon, you are describing a breeder - mine was not. 4 ft. x 12" x 18"? or maybe 24"? high - don't know I sold it, too hard to clean - too deep At any rate, what my I'm getting at is that my tank was also 4 ft long, and my tank was also about a foot from front to back, it was just taller. So h_sheltie's frontosas will have that amount of swimming area with a potential size of much larger than mine in the pic - since fish don't swim up and down fyi - I just realized in that pic, you can plainly see that my tank was taller because the background is not reaching the bottom of the tank nice __________________ "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into PEACE!" ~Michael Franti Last edited by Mazzy; 12-16-2006 at 06:30 PM.

12-17-2006, 07:18 AM	#25
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,102	55 is not big enough for frontosas for life- it is too narrow. I think you have a plan there, though. Fronts grow slowly, and stores are usually interested in buying some mid-sized ones. I would grow them out to 5". __________________

12-17-2006, 11:28 AM	#27
Mazzy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Adrian, Michigan Posts: 129	You can buy rocks at the fish store but they will be pricey. I bought lava rock and slate from a local garden center and that worked fine. Lava rock is lava rock and slate, slate no matter where you purchase it. __________________ "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into PEACE!" ~Michael Franti

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12-16-2006, 05:48 PM	#22
h_sheltie Fish Guy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Texas Age: 19 Posts: 67	I mean I will sell them back to the pet store when they 5-6 inches.

12-17-2006, 11:15 AM	#26
h_sheltie Fish Guy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Texas Age: 19 Posts: 67	Sorry for all the questions, but just one more. If it's not safe to use rocks from outside what type of rock should I buy and who would have them?

12-17-2006, 12:33 PM	#28
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,102	I took all my rocks from all my tanks from my backyard. Make sure they are rather plain looking with no obvious mineral deposits or "flecks", scrub them good, and wala, free rocks. __________________

12-19-2006, 06:44 PM	#29
judya Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 55 Posts: 223	My friend had his frontosas in a 240 gallon tank - they were breeding and they actually got him some decent money in fish store trade. I think he had a harem colony - mostly females with maybe two males?

12-20-2006, 08:22 AM	#30
Mazzy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Adrian, Michigan Posts: 129	The person who bought my Front did the same thing with the several females and just my male in the tank. I don't know about breeding Fronts but maybe that's just the way you do it?? __________________ "We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into PEACE!" ~Michael Franti

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