How about a 10 gal.? - Page 2

RamuneFizz · 03-24-2005, 04:35 PM

Yeah, I know. I won't add any for a while. I will only probably add a bottom feeder. Maybe one of those "ghost" fish. That should be it for this topic. You guys are so helpful. Thanks a million you guys. I will post again if I have any questions.

fishboy · 03-24-2005, 06:19 PM

swordtails get to be 5" long so watch out because males will also fight to the death with there swords. What is Bio spara or w/e it was you were talking about i'm using some tetra aqua stuff that speeds up cycling does any1 no if this stuff will work?

**Osiris** · 03-24-2005, 07:10 PM

hmmm....nano reef sounds good to me.

RamuneFizz · 03-24-2005, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldfish3 @ Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:19 pm

swordtails get to be 5" long so watch out because males will also fight to the death with there swords. What is Bio spara or w/e it was you were talking about i'm using some tetra aqua stuff that speeds up cycling does any1 no if this stuff will work?

I was told they get like 2 inches long.

osteoporoosi · 03-25-2005, 06:17 AM

No they really get big, 5 inches or so. Mine are about 15cm now, without the sword.

RamuneFizz · 03-25-2005, 03:31 PM

Geez. Well, mine dont have a "sword". Do those develop later, or are they something else? Because their tag didnt say 5 inches at the place.

Lexus · 03-25-2005, 03:43 PM

Males have swords and females do not

**Fishfirst** · 03-25-2005, 07:03 PM

Also 7 fish in a 10 gallon thats not cycled is, in my opinion is murder... I'd take back the swords right now and take back 3 guppies... keep two and cycle the tank... during the cycle your fish will be exposed to two poisons... ammonia, and nitrite. Once these hit 0, you could add more fish.

RamuneFizz · 03-26-2005, 07:57 PM

Like I said. It's a little late now. I have had them almost a week and they are doing fine. The swords wouldn't eat very much at first but their fine now, and all the guppies always showed no problems.

RamuneFizz · 03-30-2005, 01:33 PM

Ok. It's been a week and a day and I doubt I will be adding anymore fish. I went back to the place I purchased my fish a day or so back to get my dog groomed and the swordtail's tag DID say 5 inches. I started to worry a little bit. What am I supposed to do? The two swordtails at 5" each is the capacity of my tank (if you got by a gallon=1")? I like them and wat to keep them but I want the best for them. When they get large, if I can't find someone who wants them, will most petstores take fish and re-sell them? I am so lost with this one. Other than that, everything seems great. Oh, do swordtails nip fins? My guppies with the long tails, one's tail kind of looks jaggedy. It doesn't really look like it's fins have been nipped, but it does at the same time. It's weird. And I am assuming my swordtails are females because they have no "swords". Thanks again. You guys are great.

osteoporoosi · 03-30-2005, 01:35 PM

if the swords are young, they might grow a sword later on. I suggest that you start looking for a bigger home for them already, or buy a new tank

RamuneFizz · 03-30-2005, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamuneFizz @ Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:33 pm

Ok. It's been a week and a day and I doubt I will be adding anymore fish. I went back to the place I purchased my fish a day or so back to get my dog groomed and the swordtail's tag DID say 5 inches. I started to worry a little bit. What am I supposed to do? The two swordtails at 5" each is the capacity of my tank (if you got by a gallon=1")? I like them and wat to keep them but I want the best for them. When they get large, if I can't find someone who wants them, will most petstores take fish and re-sell them? I am so lost with this one. Other than that, everything seems great. Oh, do swordtails nip fins? My guppies with the long tails, one's tail kind of looks jaggedy. It doesn't really look like it's fins have been nipped, but it does at the same time. It's weird. And I am assuming my swordtails are females because they have no "swords". Thanks again. You guys are great.

I did that because a new page got started, and because (I have such bad memory) to ask another question. My mom bought these little bulbs for aquariums. They are supposed to sprout lilies I think. You just drop them in, not bury them. So I did and I am letting them sit and grow. Are these ok for fish? Has anyone heard of these? I think my mom got them at Wal-Mart just if you wanted to know.

**Fishfirst** · 03-30-2005, 02:38 PM

yeah they are okay... they may lower the pH a bit but not very fast. They may even help you through the cycle... but most likely will not live very long. Plants need a lot of light 2 watts/gallon is recomended. Sooooo most likely you will not meet thier requirements. I bought the same lillies for my 55 gallon aquarium, and they sprouted and had a few leaves on, then they slowly did worse and worse until I took them out. Now with the power compact lighting I have on there, I could have them flurish.

RamuneFizz · 03-30-2005, 03:23 PM

I have a light.15W/120V 2 bulbs in the hood of the tank. The plants really don't matter to me, as long as they dont hurt my fish,.

fishfreaks · 03-30-2005, 08:29 PM

great pics!

RamuneFizz · 03-31-2005, 04:18 PM

Thanks. Bad news. One of my guppies died. I really don't know what happened. I think it might have been those plant bulbs, because on sank and it's fine, but one floated. It would stay by the filter from the suction, i am guessing, and then be repelled down under the current from the filter and just keep doing it. I think the fish may have gotten curious and just got hit. I don't know. He was small, so maybe he was getting bullied or maybe lack of food. It was one of the short-tailed guppies. Maybe I got him and he had complications already. The store has a two wee guarentee so we are going to return him. I removed the bulb and the fish. But, I guess this is actually a good thing. Sort of like silver lineing type of deal. Due to the fact that I am pretty much going to need all the space I can get for those swords until I figure out what to do with them. But, all the others seem fine. The heater is keeping the water just under 80 degrees F. the filter is working. I have feed them and I watch to make sure the swords eat because they tend to eat last and not get caught up with the little fish, and wait till the food sinks. I think I am going to use the money to go towards one of those testing kits so I don't have to take a sample in.

**Fishfirst** · 03-31-2005, 04:29 PM

Floating bulbs are no good... good job in taking it out. You will pretty soon be experiencing your first ammonia spike so testing is needed. I would strongly suggest watching your fish for any abnormal behavior indicating this spike. Your guppy might be a victim of the ammonia more than the bulb...

ron v · 03-31-2005, 07:24 PM

I'm going to jump in here. I hope it's OK. I'm new to this forum, but I've been into the hobby for a while. I just read over this thread quickly and I'm afraid we are about to have trouble in the 10 gal. tank. Ramune, have you changed any water? If I understand everything, you have a tank thats about a week into its cycle and it is also quite crowded. I hate to say this, but it's about time for the " you know what" to hit the fan. Ammonia should be about to skyrocket and nitrites ( which are more toxic than ammonia) are probably about to start showing up. If that's the case, you need to be doing massive water changes, every day, to lower the toxins in the tank. Do you have any test kits for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. You also need a PH test kit and GH/Kh kit would be good also. I hate to be an alarmist, but " new tank syndrom" is the leading cause of fish deaths in our hobby. It needs to be taken seriously. Again, I'm new here so I hope I haven't overstepped. In any case. Ramune, good luck to you.

**Fishfirst** · 03-31-2005, 07:51 PM

she's been forwarned...

RamuneFizz · 04-01-2005, 10:37 AM

Not a she. And as water gets too low for my heater, I treat some water and add it. Yesterday, I got 3 ghost shrimp. Yay. That is all.

03-24-2005, 04:35 PM	#21
RamuneFizz Fishy Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 24	Re: How about a 10 gal.? Yeah, I know. I won't add any for a while. I will only probably add a bottom feeder. Maybe one of those "ghost" fish. That should be it for this topic. You guys are so helpful. Thanks a million you guys. I will post again if I have any questions.

03-24-2005, 06:19 PM	#22
fishboy Custom User Title Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 17 Posts: 1,647	swordtails get to be 5" long so watch out because males will also fight to the death with there swords. What is Bio spara or w/e it was you were talking about i'm using some tetra aqua stuff that speeds up cycling does any1 no if this stuff will work? __________________ It is only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

03-24-2005, 07:10 PM	#23
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03-25-2005, 06:17 AM	#25
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03-25-2005, 03:43 PM	#27
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03-25-2005, 07:03 PM	#28
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 5	Also 7 fish in a 10 gallon thats not cycled is, in my opinion is murder... I'd take back the swords right now and take back 3 guppies... keep two and cycle the tank... during the cycle your fish will be exposed to two poisons... ammonia, and nitrite. Once these hit 0, you could add more fish. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

03-26-2005, 07:57 PM	#29
RamuneFizz Fishy Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 24	Re: How about a 10 gal.? Like I said. It's a little late now. I have had them almost a week and they are doing fine. The swords wouldn't eat very much at first but their fine now, and all the guppies always showed no problems.

03-30-2005, 01:33 PM	#30
RamuneFizz Fishy Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 24	Re: How about a 10 gal.? Ok. It's been a week and a day and I doubt I will be adding anymore fish. I went back to the place I purchased my fish a day or so back to get my dog groomed and the swordtail's tag DID say 5 inches. I started to worry a little bit. What am I supposed to do? The two swordtails at 5" each is the capacity of my tank (if you got by a gallon=1")? I like them and wat to keep them but I want the best for them. When they get large, if I can't find someone who wants them, will most petstores take fish and re-sell them? I am so lost with this one. Other than that, everything seems great. Oh, do swordtails nip fins? My guppies with the long tails, one's tail kind of looks jaggedy. It doesn't really look like it's fins have been nipped, but it does at the same time. It's weird. And I am assuming my swordtails are females because they have no "swords". Thanks again. You guys are great.

03-30-2005, 01:35 PM	#31
osteoporoosi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 633	Re: How about a 10 gal.? if the swords are young, they might grow a sword later on. I suggest that you start looking for a bigger home for them already, or buy a new tank __________________ http://photobucket.com/albums/v640/osteoporoosi/

03-30-2005, 02:38 PM	#33
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 5	yeah they are okay... they may lower the pH a bit but not very fast. They may even help you through the cycle... but most likely will not live very long. Plants need a lot of light 2 watts/gallon is recomended. Sooooo most likely you will not meet thier requirements. I bought the same lillies for my 55 gallon aquarium, and they sprouted and had a few leaves on, then they slowly did worse and worse until I took them out. Now with the power compact lighting I have on there, I could have them flurish. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

03-30-2005, 03:23 PM	#34
RamuneFizz Fishy Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 24	Re: How about a 10 gal.? I have a light.15W/120V 2 bulbs in the hood of the tank. The plants really don't matter to me, as long as they dont hurt my fish,.

03-30-2005, 08:29 PM	#35
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03-31-2005, 04:18 PM	#36
RamuneFizz Fishy Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 24	Re: How about a 10 gal.? Thanks. Bad news. One of my guppies died. I really don't know what happened. I think it might have been those plant bulbs, because on sank and it's fine, but one floated. It would stay by the filter from the suction, i am guessing, and then be repelled down under the current from the filter and just keep doing it. I think the fish may have gotten curious and just got hit. I don't know. He was small, so maybe he was getting bullied or maybe lack of food. It was one of the short-tailed guppies. Maybe I got him and he had complications already. The store has a two wee guarentee so we are going to return him. I removed the bulb and the fish. But, I guess this is actually a good thing. Sort of like silver lineing type of deal. Due to the fact that I am pretty much going to need all the space I can get for those swords until I figure out what to do with them. But, all the others seem fine. The heater is keeping the water just under 80 degrees F. the filter is working. I have feed them and I watch to make sure the swords eat because they tend to eat last and not get caught up with the little fish, and wait till the food sinks. I think I am going to use the money to go towards one of those testing kits so I don't have to take a sample in.

03-31-2005, 04:29 PM	#37
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 5	Floating bulbs are no good... good job in taking it out. You will pretty soon be experiencing your first ammonia spike so testing is needed. I would strongly suggest watching your fish for any abnormal behavior indicating this spike. Your guppy might be a victim of the ammonia more than the bulb... __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

03-31-2005, 07:24 PM	#38
ron v Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Alabama Age: 61 Posts: 1,123	Re: How about a 10 gal.? I'm going to jump in here. I hope it's OK. I'm new to this forum, but I've been into the hobby for a while. I just read over this thread quickly and I'm afraid we are about to have trouble in the 10 gal. tank. Ramune, have you changed any water? If I understand everything, you have a tank thats about a week into its cycle and it is also quite crowded. I hate to say this, but it's about time for the " you know what" to hit the fan. Ammonia should be about to skyrocket and nitrites ( which are more toxic than ammonia) are probably about to start showing up. If that's the case, you need to be doing massive water changes, every day, to lower the toxins in the tank. Do you have any test kits for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. You also need a PH test kit and GH/Kh kit would be good also. I hate to be an alarmist, but " new tank syndrom" is the leading cause of fish deaths in our hobby. It needs to be taken seriously. Again, I'm new here so I hope I haven't overstepped. In any case. Ramune, good luck to you.

03-31-2005, 07:51 PM	#39
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 5	she's been forwarned... __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

04-01-2005, 10:37 AM	#40
RamuneFizz Fishy Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 24	Re: How about a 10 gal.? Not a she. And as water gets too low for my heater, I treat some water and add it. Yesterday, I got 3 ghost shrimp. Yay. That is all.

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