FishForums.com  

Go Back   FishForums.com > Freshwater > Beginner Freshwater
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Members currently in the Chat:7
members chatting
  Users In Chat Room:  lohachata, WildForFish, mesapod, Zankara, wm_crash, Ricker, curtman602003      Come On In!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-16-2007, 02:12 PM   #1
fishnewb
Fishy Member
 
fishnewb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Age: 23
Posts: 12
Default redoing an aquarium

i have a 10 gallon tank which one very spoiled betta resides in ... but the set up has been the same for months and i want to change things up a bit for him. i want to put all new gravel in, new plants, new driftwood, etc.....

is there a way to go about this without ruining my cycled tank?

also, how often should i change the filter (the blueish looking one with carbon in it. the package says quite often ...)
fishnewb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2007, 02:22 PM   #2
oliesminis
FISH ARE FREINDS NOT FOOD
 
oliesminis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: England, Milton Keynes
Age: 15
Posts: 497
Default

ok 1st step changing all the gravel will start a new cycle no way to avoid that. however new ornaments wont if added slowly

the filter thing will need changing rarely. ive not had to do mine yet. the reason the box says often is because they want to make money

hope this helps

olie
__________________
OllieCoxPhotography

oliesminis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2007, 02:22 PM   #3
mousey
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 810
Default

I would think it would be ok if you did a bit every couple of weeks. That would allow the remaining bacteria to catch up again after you remove some of the bacteria laden articles.
take your betta out of the tank when you remove the gravel- there is so much crap in gravel it is amazing.
Also the only reason you need carbon in a filter is to make the water clear or remove medications. A lot of us just leave it out. You can cut that filter insert open and remove the charcoal. save it for a rainy day! Then you will only have to change the pad every few months. just give it a rinse in old tank water when you clean his lordships water.
__________________
mousey
Toronto. Canada
mousey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2007, 02:24 PM   #4
emc7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Johns Creek, GA
Posts: 3,303
Default

Rinse (preferable in old tank water, cold sink water if its really nasty) and reuse the blue cartridge until it start to fall apart. Unless your filter also has a sponge or biowheel 90%+ of your tank's biology is there. Changing it more frequently will give you fresh carbon and get rid of the scum on the surface of the water, but risks having to recycle the tank. Thats why its good to have 2 filters. If you don't touch the filter, you should be fine to change everything else.
emc7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2007, 02:27 PM   #5
fishnewb
Fishy Member
 
fishnewb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Age: 23
Posts: 12
Default

aaah, thanks for all of the advice.

i just feel like he is bored in there ... needs some new toys! doing it gradually sounds like a good idea.

i feed him a variety of foods, pellets, flakes, peas occasionally ... etc.
the flakes are red and i've found the there's a red algae coating over the plants and decor. is this good or bad?
fishnewb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2007, 02:28 PM   #6
Zoe
<·)))<
 
Zoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Ottawa
Age: 22
Posts: 1,030
Send a message via AIM to Zoe Send a message via MSN to Zoe
Default

A big part of your good bacteria are in your gravel, but most of it is in your filter, so don't worry too much about re-cycling the tank.

Unplug your filter and set it aside.

Remove as much of the water as you and put it in clean fish buckets to save some of the water, and put your fish in one of the buckets.

Remove the rest of the water and the old gravel.

Put in the new, rinsed gravel. Add your driftwood, and fill the tank with some of the water leftover, to about 2/3 full. Add your plants, and fill the tank the rest of the way. Put the filter back on, plug it in, and then put your fish back in.

You don't need to replace your filter sponge. Almost never, like just when it's falling apart. If it's getting gunky, rinse it in a bucket of tank water when you do a water change.

The carbon you can replace every month. It's best if you go with a filter and a carbon bag instead of those combo cartridges.
__________________
90g pltd: angelfish [black, leopard, platinum, silver zebra & gold vt] · glass catfish · harlequin rasbora · neon & rummy nosed tetra · sterpai & spotted cory · bristlenose pleco

28g pltd: scarlet badis · oto cats · bristlenose

16g pltd: flame & honey gourami · cherry barbs

8g (soon to be 18g): 15 lbs LR · 10 lbs LS · YSP · zoas · shrooms · flame & hammer corals · brittle star · scarlet & electric blue hermits · firefish
Zoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2007, 02:28 PM   #7
JustOneMore20
Moderator
 
JustOneMore20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Birmingham, AL
Age: 22
Posts: 3,592
Default

When you change the gravel, save a handful of it and put it underneath the new gravel so that you save some bacteria. Then, you can change out the ornaments (either at the same time or gradually before that).

They've given you good advice on the filter changing above.

edit: Haha...excellent advice as always Zoe! We posted at the same time.
__________________
*Kristin*
5 Planted tanks:
55g, 40g, 29g, 20g, 5.5g


JustOneMore20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2007, 03:04 PM   #8
emc7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Johns Creek, GA
Posts: 3,303
Default

Put some old gravel in a nylon. Don't put it in loose or it will mix together.
emc7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2007, 03:20 PM   #9
Scuba Kid
Moderator
 
Scuba Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: RI
Age: 18
Posts: 4,223
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by emc7
Put some old gravel in a nylon. Don't put it in loose or it will mix together.
I was going to say the same thing. Don't hafta worry about the old gravel mixing with the new or having to change it out gradually. Just put it in a nylon in the tank with your new gravel and decor and take the nylons out after the mini cycle (if you have one at all).
__________________
Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks
Scuba Kid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Funny, informative, or just plain sad? TheOldSalt FYI (For Your Info) 17 07-29-2007 04:33 PM
World's largest, 'most unique' aquarium set to open in Atlanta fish_doc The Water Hole 48 07-09-2007 03:59 AM
Window to offer wide view of aquarium life fish_doc The Water Hole 3 08-29-2005 11:52 PM
In Atlanta, a bigger kettle of fish fish_doc The Water Hole 14 08-24-2005 08:07 PM
Max's journal maxpayne_lhp User Journals 9 07-11-2005 12:45 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 2.4.0
Copyright - FishForums.com