whats going on with my angle ???

POORE19 · 02-04-2008, 04:51 PM

Ok so iv had an angle fish for about maby 3 months she is fully sized and latly the past few days she has been acting veary weird she wont move its veary rare and she wont eat i have another angle who is fine and my swordtail is fine the angle is the largest fish in my tank and i havent changed anything its always been the same temp,pH,water changes ever other week I dont know of any reason why she would be like this plz help and thx

**JustOneMore20** · 02-04-2008, 05:57 PM

What size tank?

What are your water parameters (specifically ammonia, nitrIte, and nitrAte)? And what is the temp?

Also, what are tankmates?

We need a bit more info to help you.

And its ANGEL....sorry, just a pet peeve of mine.

Gourami Swami · 02-04-2008, 06:06 PM

You say full size.... so its about 6+" tall?

What are your paramenters? ammonia, nitrite, nitrate?

POORE19 · 02-04-2008, 06:50 PM

i have 1 more angel 1 sword tail the chemicals are fine almost zero its a 30 gallon tank and yes a little less then 6''

trashion · 02-04-2008, 07:57 PM

almost zero is not "fine," no offense. nitrite and ammonia are highly toxic to fish. nitrate is the ONLY thing that should be greater than zero.

did you recently change a filter cartridge or do a large water change?

how big of a water change do you do every other week? with 2 angels in a 30 gallon tank, i'd recommend at least 1/3 every week.

honestly, i've read that angels need a bigger tank than what you have. i wouldn't put 2 in a 30 gallon. 40 or more is probably a better bet.

**JustOneMore20** · 02-04-2008, 09:00 PM

Also, with 2 angels in the tank, do you see any signs of aggression from the non-sickly angel? What about marks or anything on the one that is sickly?

Gourami Swami · 02-04-2008, 09:15 PM

Please give us good readings.... I am willing to bet 10 bucks at this point that its your water quality. It seems like if they dont know what the readings are, its ALWAYS water quality

emc7 · 02-04-2008, 09:45 PM

Is she at the top or the bottom of the tank? 30 is fine for a mated pair, but if 2 angels don't get along, one will dominate and the other will hide. If shes at the surface gasping, it prob. is water quality. If shes at the bottom, laying on her side, or swimming funny, it could be a digestive problem. Try the cooked, skinned pea treatment. It can't hurt. But if she isn't eating anything, she prob. won't take it. Go ahead and do another water change. Like the pea, it won't hurt and might help.

POORE19 · 02-09-2008, 06:43 AM

Yea she is mainly at the. Bottom and j just did alot of water changes recently and she is still at the bottom she has been eating tho

POORE19 · 02-09-2008, 06:44 AM

yea I did recent water changes and she is still at the bottom but she is eating again

**JustOneMore20** · 02-09-2008, 12:15 PM

Have you done water tests recently? Check for ammonia and nitrIte and give us exact numbers.

Have you noticed the other angel chasing or nipping or showing any aggression towards this one?

**Fishfirst** · 02-09-2008, 05:13 PM

with a water change her condition has improved... hmmm, sounds like water quality was the cause to me.

02-04-2008, 04:51 PM	#1
POORE19 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5	whats going on with my angle ??? Ok so iv had an angle fish for about maby 3 months she is fully sized and latly the past few days she has been acting veary weird she wont move its veary rare and she wont eat i have another angle who is fine and my swordtail is fine the angle is the largest fish in my tank and i havent changed anything its always been the same temp,pH,water changes ever other week I dont know of any reason why she would be like this plz help and thx

02-04-2008, 05:57 PM	#2
JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 22 Posts: 3,592	What size tank? What are your water parameters (specifically ammonia, nitrIte, and nitrAte)? And what is the temp? Also, what are tankmates? We need a bit more info to help you. And its ANGEL....sorry, just a pet peeve of mine. __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 20g, 5.5g

02-04-2008, 06:06 PM	#3
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,106	You say full size.... so its about 6+" tall? What are your paramenters? ammonia, nitrite, nitrate? __________________

02-04-2008, 07:57 PM	#5
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,330	almost zero is not "fine," no offense. nitrite and ammonia are highly toxic to fish. nitrate is the ONLY thing that should be greater than zero. did you recently change a filter cartridge or do a large water change? how big of a water change do you do every other week? with 2 angels in a 30 gallon tank, i'd recommend at least 1/3 every week. honestly, i've read that angels need a bigger tank than what you have. i wouldn't put 2 in a 30 gallon. 40 or more is probably a better bet. __________________ current setup: 5.5 gallon low-light planted tank -nothing....thinking a mini-community. for reference: my name is Julie

02-04-2008, 09:00 PM	#6
JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 22 Posts: 3,592	Also, with 2 angels in the tank, do you see any signs of aggression from the non-sickly angel? What about marks or anything on the one that is sickly? __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 20g, 5.5g

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02-04-2008, 06:50 PM	#4
POORE19 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5	i have 1 more angel 1 sword tail the chemicals are fine almost zero its a 30 gallon tank and yes a little less then 6''

02-04-2008, 09:15 PM	#7
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,106	Please give us good readings.... I am willing to bet 10 bucks at this point that its your water quality. It seems like if they dont know what the readings are, its ALWAYS water quality __________________

02-04-2008, 09:45 PM	#8
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,303	Is she at the top or the bottom of the tank? 30 is fine for a mated pair, but if 2 angels don't get along, one will dominate and the other will hide. If shes at the surface gasping, it prob. is water quality. If shes at the bottom, laying on her side, or swimming funny, it could be a digestive problem. Try the cooked, skinned pea treatment. It can't hurt. But if she isn't eating anything, she prob. won't take it. Go ahead and do another water change. Like the pea, it won't hurt and might help.

02-09-2008, 06:43 AM	#9
POORE19 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5	Yea she is mainly at the. Bottom and j just did alot of water changes recently and she is still at the bottom she has been eating tho

02-09-2008, 06:44 AM	#10
POORE19 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5	yea I did recent water changes and she is still at the bottom but she is eating again

02-09-2008, 12:15 PM	#11
JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 22 Posts: 3,592	Have you done water tests recently? Check for ammonia and nitrIte and give us exact numbers. Have you noticed the other angel chasing or nipping or showing any aggression towards this one? __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 20g, 5.5g

02-09-2008, 05:13 PM	#12
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,546	with a water change her condition has improved... hmmm, sounds like water quality was the cause to me. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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