Bottom Feeder / Scavenger

SouthernJustice · 07-09-2005, 01:06 PM

Do any of you guys have an idea as to the best type of bottom feeder / Scavenger I could use for my 10 gallon (see bottom for details) ? I used to have the "Red Claw Crab" but he took a patriotic exit. I've seen some of those catfish type fish and the scavenger sharks that do a pretty good job cleaning the bottom of the tank and I've also read about ghost shrimp, however I am concerned about space, compatability, etc... (Keep in mind the MALE BETTA here.) Any suggesstions?

**Scuba Kid** · 07-09-2005, 01:13 PM

i dont think you should add any more fish...

SouthernJustice · 07-09-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuba Kid

i dont think you should add any more fish...

Well, I need something to clean the bottom. Ok, so hypotheticly if I did not have as many fish or got rid of some.. what would you recommend?

shev · 07-09-2005, 01:41 PM

ghost shrimp, not much of a bioload.
Cleaner uppers wont replace weekly water changes. Snails will also clean up excess food.

I think youre talking about corydoras. most will fit in a 10 gallon, but need a school. no "scavenger sharks" will fit in a 10 gallon.

The betta will probably kill the ghost shrimp. I had a betta and 10 ghost shrimp in a 10 gallon tank. The shrimp population dwindled out over a couple weeks and I found him eating them. theyre just a quarter though.

SouthernJustice · 07-09-2005, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shev

ghost shrimp, not much of a bioload.
Cleaner uppers wont replace weekly water changes. Snails will also clean up excess food.

I think youre talking about corydoras. most will fit in a 10 gallon, but need a school. no "scavenger sharks" will fit in a 10 gallon.

The betta will probably kill the ghost shrimp. I had a betta and 10 ghost shrimp in a 10 gallon tank. The shrimp population dwindled out over a couple weeks and I found him eating them. theyre just a quarter though.

Thanks, I was thinking about ghostshrimp as well. I can always remove my betta to a bowl. Small price to pay, I guess. Are there any significant known problems with ghost shrimp -i.e escaping (like my red claw) or diseases - or are they relativly safe for a small freshwater aquarium. Also, can they live in brackish.. which water do they prefer?

fishfreaks · 07-09-2005, 07:57 PM

if your substrate is so dirty, do you gravel vac?

SouthernJustice · 07-09-2005, 08:47 PM

I do not have a gravel vac but I will most likey purchase one when it comes time to upgrade my tank. Either way though, I like bottom feeders, and the Multiple tier fishtanks.

Lydia · 07-09-2005, 09:41 PM

i would use ghost shrimp....even if they get eaten you could buy more, since they are inexpensive

SouthernJustice · 07-09-2005, 09:42 PM

Ok thanks, I think I'm going to try that.

IHadSexWithAllTheseFish · 07-09-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shev

Snails will also clean up excess food.

What kind of snails?

maxpayne_lhp · 07-10-2005, 12:00 AM

I think most will but remember to look up for extra vegi food as well as calci provision, some may die if such things are not included...

shev · 07-10-2005, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by IHadSexWithAllTheseFish

What kind of snails?

snaily snails.

blor · 07-10-2005, 12:57 AM

yeah, definately the ghost shrimp.....gotta love those guys

**Scuba Kid** · 07-10-2005, 10:04 AM

malaysian trumpet snails are good.

Lydia · 07-10-2005, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shev

snaily snails.

lol shev that was a very intelligent sounding reply....jk

IHadSexWithAllTheseFish · 07-10-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba Kid

malaysian trumpet snails are good.

Are they huge, like those apple snails?

shev · 07-10-2005, 01:18 PM

No, malaysian trumpet snails are pretty small, and I think grow kinda slow. the majority in my tank are around a centimeter long. I got some to clean up the darn hornwort. it sheds leaves a lot, then the population exploded. as I sifted through the substrate there were a bajillion of them all around a cm. there are still some that are almost an inch long.

IHadSexWithAllTheseFish · 07-10-2005, 01:24 PM

Hmm, you think one will do a good job of cleaning around a ten gallon? I don't want more than one, the idea of a snail population developing in my tank scares me.

**Scuba Kid** · 07-10-2005, 01:49 PM

then no. malaysian trumpet snails reproduce asexually, so you cant avoid the population increasing.

IHadSexWithAllTheseFish · 07-10-2005, 02:14 PM

Damn bisexuals. Are there any sanils anyone would suggest? I like snails. And if the malaysian snails reproduced, would it create a problem for me? I just have a ten gallon with a few fake plants, would a gang of snails harm my fish (of course, not physically harm, but eat all the food, affect the water negativly, ext.)?

07-09-2005, 01:06 PM	#1
SouthernJustice Self Described Huguenot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan, but my heart resides in the South. Age: 20 Posts: 103 User Feedback: (0)	Bottom Feeder / Scavenger Do any of you guys have an idea as to the best type of bottom feeder / Scavenger I could use for my 10 gallon (see bottom for details) ? I used to have the "Red Claw Crab" but he took a patriotic exit. I've seen some of those catfish type fish and the scavenger sharks that do a pretty good job cleaning the bottom of the tank and I've also read about ghost shrimp, however I am concerned about space, compatability, etc... (Keep in mind the MALE BETTA here.) Any suggesstions? __________________ 10 Gallon: FW Community 20 Gal Whisper Filter, Heater, Red Gravel, Fake Plants and a plastic Artillery gun 55 Gallon: 4 Red Belly Piranha

07-09-2005, 01:13 PM	#2
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07-09-2005, 01:41 PM	#4
shev Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montana Age: 19 Posts: 1,561 User Feedback: (0)	ghost shrimp, not much of a bioload. Cleaner uppers wont replace weekly water changes. Snails will also clean up excess food. I think youre talking about corydoras. most will fit in a 10 gallon, but need a school. no "scavenger sharks" will fit in a 10 gallon. The betta will probably kill the ghost shrimp. I had a betta and 10 ghost shrimp in a 10 gallon tank. The shrimp population dwindled out over a couple weeks and I found him eating them. theyre just a quarter though. Last edited by shev; 07-09-2005 at 01:44 PM.

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SouthernJustice Self Described Huguenot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan, but my heart resides in the South. Age: 20 Posts: 103 User Feedback: (0)	I do not have a gravel vac but I will most likey purchase one when it comes time to upgrade my tank. Either way though, I like bottom feeders, and the Multiple tier fishtanks. __________________ 10 Gallon: FW Community 20 Gal Whisper Filter, Heater, Red Gravel, Fake Plants and a plastic Artillery gun 55 Gallon: 4 Red Belly Piranha

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07-09-2005, 09:42 PM	#9
SouthernJustice Self Described Huguenot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan, but my heart resides in the South. Age: 20 Posts: 103 User Feedback: (0)	Ok thanks, I think I'm going to try that. __________________ 10 Gallon: FW Community 20 Gal Whisper Filter, Heater, Red Gravel, Fake Plants and a plastic Artillery gun 55 Gallon: 4 Red Belly Piranha

07-10-2005, 12:00 AM	#11
maxpayne_lhp Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Michigan's salad bowl. Age: 20 Posts: 2,171 User Feedback: (0)	I think most will but remember to look up for extra vegi food as well as calci provision, some may die if such things are not included... __________________ ~Nam Nguyen~

07-10-2005, 12:57 AM	#13
blor living in a 10 gal tank Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: So Cal Age: 28 Posts: 143 User Feedback: (0)	yeah, definately the ghost shrimp.....gotta love those guys

07-10-2005, 10:04 AM	#14
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 3,874 User Feedback: (1)	malaysian trumpet snails are good. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

07-10-2005, 01:18 PM	#17
shev Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montana Age: 19 Posts: 1,561 User Feedback: (0)	No, malaysian trumpet snails are pretty small, and I think grow kinda slow. the majority in my tank are around a centimeter long. I got some to clean up the darn hornwort. it sheds leaves a lot, then the population exploded. as I sifted through the substrate there were a bajillion of them all around a cm. there are still some that are almost an inch long.

07-10-2005, 01:24 PM	#18
IHadSexWithAllTheseFish Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 54 User Feedback: (0)	Hmm, you think one will do a good job of cleaning around a ten gallon? I don't want more than one, the idea of a snail population developing in my tank scares me.

07-10-2005, 01:49 PM	#19
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 3,874 User Feedback: (1)	then no. malaysian trumpet snails reproduce asexually, so you cant avoid the population increasing. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

07-10-2005, 02:14 PM	#20
IHadSexWithAllTheseFish Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 54 User Feedback: (0)	Damn bisexuals. Are there any sanils anyone would suggest? I like snails. And if the malaysian snails reproduced, would it create a problem for me? I just have a ten gallon with a few fake plants, would a gang of snails harm my fish (of course, not physically harm, but eat all the food, affect the water negativly, ext.)?

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