my 10 gallon

[kissy]

Hi! Just wanted to introduce myself to the forum members and tell alittle about my setup...

10g tank (glass)
Whisper internal 10i filter
blue gravel
2 plastic plants


fish:
school of 6 pacu
1 angelfish
2 bubbleeye goldfish
1 serpa tetra
ghost catfish
betta
3ghost shrimp
3 plecostumus


Anyway, hope you like it , may get pics up soon.

[Pac-Man]

you have a TON of problems with that tank. the pacus need at least 500 gallons of water. the angel needs like at least 25, the GOLDFISH NEED 60 GALLONS, you need to return some fish from this tank. ALOT of fish. this is beyond overstocked. any kind of pleco wont fit in a 10g tank, let alone 3. you need to get rid of some fish, FAST

[fishfreaks]

yup get rid of the plecos, angelfish, and pacus, and your tank should be fine

[kissy]

pacus and that they only get to 2" long! so, ill be able to keep them. I did returm the angelfish, and while there I couldn't resist getting another betta. I also added one more ghost shrimp.

[Courtney]

Pacu's grow to be 22 to 43 inches long, just a note...

[Pac-Man]

yes kissy, plz return the pacus. if u know anything about them at all, u should know they get huge.

[fish_doc]

Originally Posted by kissy

pacus and that they only get to 2" long! so, ill be able to keep them. I did returm the angelfish, and while there I couldn't resist getting another betta. I also added one more ghost shrimp.

If they are both male do not put them in the same tank one will kill the other.
When whoever told you that pacus only grow to two inches they were probably thinking of the close relative being silver dollars. And even then there is only a few kinds of them that stay that small.

[TheOldSalt]

Mini-Pacus?
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA!!!!!!!
Hoohoo, that's a good one.

RUN, don't walk, away from this store forever. THAT bozo has no business being in the fish business, and you should NEVER give him another penny.

I don't even know where to start. Your tank is not THE most screwed-up one I've ever seen, but it's way up there in the top ten.
So let's see... now you have, after your changes:

6 pacu
2 goldfish
2 bettas !
1 single serpae tetra
4 ghost shrimp
3 plecos
and a ghost catfish, whatever that is.

All in a single 10 gallon tank.

Holy mother of crap.


Waitaminute...is this a joke?

[mlefev]

Well, I'm a little less ready to jump on someone for this, but they're all correct. You still have WAY too many fish.

A Pacus will grow to at least 18 inches, no matter what the variety is. That's practically the length of your tank.

Your goldfish will be stunted by your tank size ( which I wouldn't reccommend ) but even at they can grow large enough to overcrowd just by themselves. They also produce enough waste to raise the ammonia to toxic levels for every fish you currently own.

Bettas also can have thier fins nipped by your tetra, especially if there isn't enough room in the tank.

The ghost shrimp are fine with any of the fish..except that the goldfish might think they're lunch one of these days.

The Pelcos can almost grow to 12 inches if they're kept in a large enough environment.

So let me explain your situation...IF you could raise these to maturity, you would have a tank packed with fish like tuna in a can, and you would have no water left.

You have 2 options, get rid of most the larger fish, or get a massive tank.

I have 3 zebra danios, 3 neon tetras, one platy and one cory catfish in my 10 gallon tank, and I have to do at least 2 10% water changes per week to keep the ammonia levels from getting too high.

No one here is trying to discourage you, but nothing we could say would be as discrouraging as seeing your fish drop off one by one.

[Pac-Man]

so oldsalt, whats the most messed up tank youve seen?, lol

[osteoporoosi]

As suggested lose the goldfish,pacus,angelfish,catfish and the plecos. Increase the number of the serpaes and you should be fine.

[MyraVan]

Originally Posted by mlefev

I have 3 zebra danios, 3 neon tetras, one platy and one cory catfish in my 10 gallon tank, and I have to do at least 2 10% water changes per week to keep the ammonia levels from getting too high.

Really? I think you have a problem there... Water changes should be to keep the nitrate levels down; the filter should be turning all your ammonia into nitrite than nitrate. If you're having to do water changes to keep the ammonia down the filter is not doing it's job.

BTW the tank in this original post is soooo bad, it really must be a joke. I mean, it's a collection of some of the biggest, messiest fish out there, with 1 tetra. It looks like a "nightmare tank" created by someone who has quite a bit of knowledge about fishkeeping, designed to wind us up. If it really is legit, then someone has just by accident chosen about the worst combination of fish you can imagine for a 10 gallon tank!

[Ownager2004]

LoL your tank simply cannont survive at the current stocking. If i were you id take everything back but your ghost shrimp and serpae tetra. And then if your tank is cycled correctly... i would buy 4-5 more serpae tetras. Even then your tank would most likely be overstocked... but i think it would be maintanable with proper care.

[TheOldSalt]

I tend to agree with MyraVan.

-2 bettas in the same tank!!!
-goldfish and tropicals mixed together
-3 goldfish in a 10 gallon tank
-1 single schooling tetra
-a six-pack of pacus in a tank that can't hold ONE
-3 plecos in a tank that can't hold 0NE
-an unknown catfish, size and habits anyone's guess
-angelfish replaced with another shrimp

That's why I asked if this was a joke. It's like kissy just knew all the wrong things to do; I mean, wow, what are the odds?

kissy, if you're for real, then let us know quick so we can help you before it's too late.

Hmmm... I dunno, PacMan, it's hard to pick the all-time worst from the most memorable doozies I've seen.

[mlefev]

Yeah, I'm a bit concerned about the ammonia also. I saw it spike shortly after I added the cory so it could have just been adding the new guy that changed things for a week or so.

I've tested it twice this week and it's been back to 0, and the nitrates seem to be 0 also, so maybe it calmed down again. I would agree that my fliter isn't doing nearly what it should be. When I'm done moving, I plan on buying a better filter. I think I've given up on UGF's. The cartridges don't work that well...basically they seem to be keeping things from getting any worse, not better. The ammonia also isn't entirely out of control, but it's showing up between the 0 and .25ppm colors in the test kit, which is more than I want it to be.

[TheOldSalt]

What??

mlefev, are you in the right thread?

[mlefev]

Yes, I was replying to MyraVan

Originally Posted by MyraVan

Really? I think you have a problem there... Water changes should be to keep the nitrate levels down; the filter should be turning all your ammonia into nitrite than nitrate. If you're having to do water changes to keep the ammonia down the filter is not doing it's job.

BTW the tank in this original post is soooo bad, it really must be a joke. I mean, it's a collection of some of the biggest, messiest fish out there, with 1 tetra. It looks like a "nightmare tank" created by someone who has quite a bit of knowledge about fishkeeping, designed to wind us up. If it really is legit, then someone has just by accident chosen about the worst combination of fish you can imagine for a 10 gallon tank!

[Celeste]

you cannot have two bettas in the same tank. they will kill each other. the others will pick on him...yes, they can be housed with other fish, but they have to be right RIGHT fish, and the RIGHT betta. some bettas don't get along with ANYONE.

you either need a new 500 gallon aquarium and a pond, or you need to find new homes for all your fish but the shrimp and the tetra and start over. they are all going to die.

[euRasian32]

mlefev: You could get a low gph Powerhead for your UGF to improve your filtration. Just a suggestion/alternative to breaking you're whole tank down to remove the UGF

[Pac-Man]

hey guys, back on topic, either she quit the joke, or we scared this new kid off...i hope it was a joke...