Sump?

madmatrixz3000 · 02-03-2005, 12:46 PM

Does anyone know if I can add a 18 gal sump onto my 10 gal tank?

I AM SERIOUS!

**Damon** · 02-03-2005, 01:33 PM

I cant even read your post. ****Or should I say not going to try to read that highlighted text.

DavidDoyle · 02-03-2005, 02:31 PM

My rule is any place you can put a sump you could have another tank with more fish in it.

A sump is not supposed to be larger than the tank it is servicing. They are best used for sw tanks and larger fw tanks.

madmatrixz3000 · 02-04-2005, 07:13 AM

o man I wanted a cheaper extention of my tank!

**Damon** · 02-04-2005, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidDoyle @ Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:31 pm

My rule is anypace you can put a sump you could have another tank with more fish in it.

A sump is not supposed to be larger than the tank it is servicing. They are best used for sw tanks and larger fw tanks.

Ditto

madmatrixz3000 · 02-04-2005, 11:38 AM

no right now I have a tuppaware box that Drs. Foster and Smith says will work as a sump. So are u saying that it is not a good idea to put a sump on my 10 gal?

**Damon** · 02-04-2005, 11:56 AM

Its not necessary. THe tank is to small to need that kind of filtration. It is a freshwater setup correct?

aquariumfishguy · 02-04-2005, 01:19 PM

Sounds like overkill.

madmatrixz3000 · 02-04-2005, 04:39 PM

really I wanted to make my own sump instead of buying a wet-dry filter. I started to like the idea when I saw that any extention would be a sump.

Right now I have a large enough filter to filter the extra water I plan to have. I would only need a small heater and a pump, which I was looking at getting any ways.

(RC) · 02-04-2005, 05:25 PM

The sump will not hurt anything and will give the system more water so it should be more stable, but it does sound like overkill on a 10G FW tank.

RC

madmatrixz3000 · 02-04-2005, 05:36 PM

so no go on just pumping water into a big bin

(RC) · 02-04-2005, 05:39 PM

I use 2 30G sumps on my Barracks system for my Bettas. They are just plastic containers from Walmart.

RC

madmatrixz3000 · 02-04-2005, 05:43 PM

that is the thing I just got a 18 gal container that is a great fit in this corner in my room. So I was thinking that it might be better to extend my 10 gallon into that then I would not have as much maitnance. This would also allow me to put algee eaters in the "sump" to controll my crazy algee problem.

(RC) · 02-04-2005, 05:53 PM

one problem with a sump is unless it's done right it's very easy to end up with a bunch of water on the floor if something screws up when your not there.

RC

icp · 02-04-2005, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBetta @ Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:53 pm

one problem with a sump is unless it's done right it's very easy to end up with a bunch of water on the floor if something screws up when your not there.

**** **** ****RC

yea have hade my 390g tank almost compleatly drain on the floor because the power turned off and it backflowed out the intake to the sump ****

madmatrixz3000 · 02-04-2005, 07:02 PM

so should I look into a one way valve or something like that to prevent a backflow?

madmatrixz3000 · 02-04-2005, 11:30 PM

maybe I was thinking of getting pumps both into and out of my tank. Will this stop a backflow?

(RC) · 02-05-2005, 04:56 AM

unless the pump have the perfect flow rate... and that doesn't change because of a piece of dirt getting in one pump then one tank or the other will over flow because it gets more water from the faster pump.

RC

madmatrixz3000 · 02-05-2005, 12:29 PM

I was gonna get indentical pumps

(RC) · 02-05-2005, 02:36 PM

That doesn't realy help. Every pump is a little different and any little piece of plant or dirt can change the flow rate enough to flood one tank and empty the other. You need an overflow for the 10G tank and a pump to pump back up from the sump to the tank.

RC

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02-03-2005, 12:46 PM	#1
madmatrixz3000 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88	Sump? Does anyone know if I can add a 18 gal sump onto my 10 gal tank? I AM SERIOUS!

02-03-2005, 01:33 PM	#2
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	Re: Sump? I cant even read your post. ****Or should I say not going to try to read that highlighted text. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

02-03-2005, 02:31 PM	#3
DavidDoyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 89 Posts: 497	Re: Sump? My rule is any place you can put a sump you could have another tank with more fish in it. A sump is not supposed to be larger than the tank it is servicing. They are best used for sw tanks and larger fw tanks.

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02-04-2005, 11:38 AM	#6
madmatrixz3000 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88	Re: Sump? no right now I have a tuppaware box that Drs. Foster and Smith says will work as a sump. So are u saying that it is not a good idea to put a sump on my 10 gal?

02-04-2005, 11:56 AM	#7
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	Re: Sump? Its not necessary. THe tank is to small to need that kind of filtration. It is a freshwater setup correct? __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

02-04-2005, 01:19 PM	#8
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02-04-2005, 04:39 PM	#9
madmatrixz3000 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88	Re: Sump? really I wanted to make my own sump instead of buying a wet-dry filter. I started to like the idea when I saw that any extention would be a sump. Right now I have a large enough filter to filter the extra water I plan to have. I would only need a small heater and a pump, which I was looking at getting any ways.

02-04-2005, 05:25 PM	#10
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	The sump will not hurt anything and will give the system more water so it should be more stable, but it does sound like overkill on a 10G FW tank. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-04-2005, 05:36 PM	#11
madmatrixz3000 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88	Re: Sump? so no go on just pumping water into a big bin

02-04-2005, 05:39 PM	#12
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	I use 2 30G sumps on my Barracks system for my Bettas. They are just plastic containers from Walmart. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-04-2005, 05:43 PM	#13
madmatrixz3000 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88	Re: Sump? that is the thing I just got a 18 gal container that is a great fit in this corner in my room. So I was thinking that it might be better to extend my 10 gallon into that then I would not have as much maitnance. This would also allow me to put algee eaters in the "sump" to controll my crazy algee problem.

02-04-2005, 05:53 PM	#14
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	one problem with a sump is unless it's done right it's very easy to end up with a bunch of water on the floor if something screws up when your not there. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-04-2005, 07:02 PM	#16
madmatrixz3000 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88	Re: Sump? so should I look into a one way valve or something like that to prevent a backflow?

02-04-2005, 11:30 PM	#17
madmatrixz3000 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88	Re: Sump? maybe I was thinking of getting pumps both into and out of my tank. Will this stop a backflow?

02-05-2005, 04:56 AM	#18
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	unless the pump have the perfect flow rate... and that doesn't change because of a piece of dirt getting in one pump then one tank or the other will over flow because it gets more water from the faster pump. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-05-2005, 12:29 PM	#19
madmatrixz3000 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 88	Re: Sump? I was gonna get indentical pumps

02-05-2005, 02:36 PM	#20
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	That doesn't realy help. Every pump is a little different and any little piece of plant or dirt can change the flow rate enough to flood one tank and empty the other. You need an overflow for the 10G tank and a pump to pump back up from the sump to the tank. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

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