Wow this just tops it all off...

Neon_Tetra · 11-12-2005, 01:12 PM

Well in my previous 75 gallon 1 month ago It had ich,and I treated it and such and later all my fish died of age so I decied to redo the whole tank cause I didnt like the look I was interested in plants. So I cleaned the tank till' it was all squeeky clean and Cycled it ect now I see ich on my my fishes in my planted tank now what do I do Java fern and java moss.

Chazwick · 11-12-2005, 01:14 PM

I'm so sorry!!!
I had Ich a couple of months ago... all my fish survived! And now i have it again, too! Though, it's getting better after two days, so fingers crossed!
Also.. i noticed one of my NEW MOLLIES has a fungal diesease.. and one of his eyes is slightly white-ish! Grrrr!!!!!!! LOL
Not to mention one of my neons has "vanished" (no sign of him when i cleaned out the filter!)
Fish life, eh? lol

Neon_Tetra · 11-12-2005, 01:15 PM

Can I treat the tank for ich with plants in it?

Chazwick · 11-12-2005, 01:21 PM

Yeah, that should be no problem. I'd get some treatment ASAP. Do frequent water changes, put the temp up... (Whitespot cannot handle hot temp), i'm not saying fry your fish, just warmer... And then get some treatment! And everything should be fine,
Good Luck.

Neon_Tetra · 11-12-2005, 01:23 PM

and no charcole filtering or what ever its called

Chazwick · 11-12-2005, 01:25 PM

I'm not really much of an expert when it comes to filtering and stuff

But i do know about diseases.
Have you tried any treatment, yet?
Sometimes some aquarium salt can help as well.

Georgia Peach · 11-12-2005, 01:55 PM

yes, no charcol while treating - raise the temp and treat ASAP!

fishfreaks · 11-12-2005, 09:22 PM

i dont think the aquarium salt goes well with plants unless they are brackish. Simpte!!! Where are you!!??

**TheOldSalt** · 11-13-2005, 07:28 AM

You can either take those super-tough plants out of the tank and put them into some separate container while treating the fish with normal meds,
OR
you can try one of these super-new meds which are safe for plants, if you can find them today,
OR
you can just crank the temperature up to 85 and watch it disappear.
It won't be cured, but it'll be knocked down & manageable.
No salt.

My suggestion is the first one.

Neon_Tetra · 11-13-2005, 11:50 AM

Ok thanks for the info

cucci67 · 11-13-2005, 06:17 PM

Java fern I am pretty sure can take some salt, not sure about java moss.

flamingo · 11-13-2005, 07:18 PM

Java fern and moss can handle salt, ecspecially if it's just aquarium salt.

Like they said just raise the temp up to 86 degrees and wait. You can add an ich medication after a couple of days but there no real need to. Almost all ich medications only treat the free swimming stage of ich and wont have any real effect on the already attached ones. If you do try medication wait until the cysts pop so you can kill the newly hatched ones.

But I still say taise the temp up and wait. No salt, doesn't really do a thing.

11-12-2005, 01:12 PM	#1
Neon_Tetra Silver Dollar Fish Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minneasota Age: 18 Posts: 64	Wow this just tops it all off... Well in my previous 75 gallon 1 month ago It had ich,and I treated it and such and later all my fish died of age so I decied to redo the whole tank cause I didnt like the look I was interested in plants. So I cleaned the tank till' it was all squeeky clean and Cycled it ect now I see ich on my my fishes in my planted tank now what do I do Java fern and java moss. __________________ [IMG][/IMG]

11-12-2005, 01:14 PM	#2
Chazwick <3 Break it... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Inside Your Skull <3 Age: 17 Posts: 404	I'm so sorry!!! I had Ich a couple of months ago... all my fish survived! And now i have it again, too! Though, it's getting better after two days, so fingers crossed! Also.. i noticed one of my NEW MOLLIES has a fungal diesease.. and one of his eyes is slightly white-ish! Grrrr!!!!!!! LOL Not to mention one of my neons has "vanished" (no sign of him when i cleaned out the filter!) Fish life, eh? lol __________________ In my dreams I’m dying all the time, As I wake it’s kaleidoscopic mind, I never meant to hurt you, I never meant to lie, So this is goodbye, This is goodbye, Tell the truth you never wanted me, Tell me, In my dreams I’m jealous all the time, As I wake I’m going out of my mind, Going out of my mind... ♥

11-12-2005, 01:15 PM	#3
Neon_Tetra Silver Dollar Fish Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minneasota Age: 18 Posts: 64	Can I treat the tank for ich with plants in it? __________________ [IMG][/IMG]

11-12-2005, 01:21 PM	#4
Chazwick <3 Break it... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Inside Your Skull <3 Age: 17 Posts: 404	Yeah, that should be no problem. I'd get some treatment ASAP. Do frequent water changes, put the temp up... (Whitespot cannot handle hot temp), i'm not saying fry your fish, just warmer... And then get some treatment! And everything should be fine, Good Luck. __________________ In my dreams I’m dying all the time, As I wake it’s kaleidoscopic mind, I never meant to hurt you, I never meant to lie, So this is goodbye, This is goodbye, Tell the truth you never wanted me, Tell me, In my dreams I’m jealous all the time, As I wake I’m going out of my mind, Going out of my mind... ♥

11-12-2005, 01:23 PM	#5
Neon_Tetra Silver Dollar Fish Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minneasota Age: 18 Posts: 64	and no charcole filtering or what ever its called __________________ [IMG][/IMG]

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11-12-2005, 01:25 PM	#6
Chazwick <3 Break it... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Inside Your Skull <3 Age: 17 Posts: 404	I'm not really much of an expert when it comes to filtering and stuff But i do know about diseases. Have you tried any treatment, yet? Sometimes some aquarium salt can help as well. __________________ In my dreams I’m dying all the time, As I wake it’s kaleidoscopic mind, I never meant to hurt you, I never meant to lie, So this is goodbye, This is goodbye, Tell the truth you never wanted me, Tell me, In my dreams I’m jealous all the time, As I wake I’m going out of my mind, Going out of my mind... ♥

11-12-2005, 01:55 PM	#7
Georgia Peach Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gray, Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 1,581	yes, no charcol while treating - raise the temp and treat ASAP! __________________ *Cichlids have more personality than most people I know !*

11-12-2005, 09:22 PM	#8
fishfreaks M&F Couple Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: PA Age: 21 Posts: 4,303	i dont think the aquarium salt goes well with plants unless they are brackish. Simpte!!! Where are you!!?? __________________ VOTE FOR FISH FORUMS

11-13-2005, 07:28 AM	#9
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,343	You can either take those super-tough plants out of the tank and put them into some separate container while treating the fish with normal meds, OR you can try one of these super-new meds which are safe for plants, if you can find them today, OR you can just crank the temperature up to 85 and watch it disappear. It won't be cured, but it'll be knocked down & manageable. No salt. My suggestion is the first one.

11-13-2005, 11:50 AM	#10
Neon_Tetra Silver Dollar Fish Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minneasota Age: 18 Posts: 64	Ok thanks for the info __________________ [IMG][/IMG]

11-13-2005, 06:17 PM	#11
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481	Java fern I am pretty sure can take some salt, not sure about java moss.

11-13-2005, 07:18 PM	#12
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 17 Posts: 1,899	Java fern and moss can handle salt, ecspecially if it's just aquarium salt. Like they said just raise the temp up to 86 degrees and wait. You can add an ich medication after a couple of days but there no real need to. Almost all ich medications only treat the free swimming stage of ich and wont have any real effect on the already attached ones. If you do try medication wait until the cysts pop so you can kill the newly hatched ones. But I still say taise the temp up and wait. No salt, doesn't really do a thing. __________________ If you put "u" instead of typing out the actual, shocking, three letter word... i'm not going to read your ramblings. I'm so behind it's not even funny.

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