Adding fish dilemna

Kids n Fish · 02-03-2006, 09:14 AM

I am adding to my 29g tank for the third time. There has been some ignorance on my part, helped by a chain-store outlet, and a true LFS and what I have needs to be supplemented for inhabitant happiness. I was anxious to start, and the clerks wanted to please my kids... I really can only fault myself for not coming here before I did anything

My stock intervals are 2 weeks, & I do a 30% water change weekly
Tank: 29 gallon, 100 watt, elite 35 power filter
Ornaments:1 big castle, 4 various sized/leafed plastic plants
My filter has 2 elements, #1 is a sponge which I just rinse in removed tank water, and #2 is a carbon element with a polyester pad, replaced 2 weeks ago, rinsed this apst week. Filter indicator says its clogging- again!

Stock 1: Zebra danio, gold danio, cory cat, sunburst molly (m), dalmation molly, silver molly (deceased), swordtail(m), micky-mouse platy
Stock 2: silver molly replaced, 4 fancy guppies (2m, 2f, 1 lost), 3 otos, blackskirt tetra, 2 neons
Sometime after that I got 2 babies (Speck & Spot), who have probably been eaten.

My dilemna is that I have learned that my neons, black skirts, danios should all be schooled, and my guppies are reverse populated. I also have a wife who wants a disc gora... and has been turned on to a glassfish- but I know now not to get one of the injecteds.

I also want to get something in the bubbly department, trying to figure out what to get and where to put it. More plants also- leaning towards the fine leafed items so they aren't dumping collectors

fishn00b · 02-03-2006, 09:53 AM

The cory cats should also be schooled if I remember correctly. Your female guppy probably won't have much hope as the two males will most likely wear her out from their constant wanting to mate (This is what happened with only one male and one female in my tank). Don't add any other fish such such as the disc gora or the glassfish (I have two of them, and I think they like to be kept in pairs or groups).

If I could recommend something, I would say go with atleast two more danios, one more neon, and two blackskirt tetras (In the wild, different types of tetras won't school, but in an aquarium I think they might). All this is if you have more room for fish. As it looks right now you seem to be pretty well stocked, and I wouldn't recommend getting anything, perhaps you can take something back or get another tank?

What might help is the addition of live plants. I believe if you keep live plants it separates the tank more, and helps oxyginate the water so more fish can be kept. I have live plants in all of my tanks and the water is very clear and it looks a lot nicer with them.

I'm just thinking this stuff off the top of my head and you would probably want to check with some of the other members here on what they think.

**Fishfirst** · 02-03-2006, 10:29 AM

now wait a minute... how long has this tank been setup? If its been setup for quite a while (3 months or so) -
I'd take some fish back such as the mollies (they tend to be aggressive) and replace them with schooling fish.

If it was setup in the last couple weeks -
Get your water tested ASAP

Kids n Fish · 02-03-2006, 11:02 AM

Tank age is about a month and a half. The only 'bully' is the sunburst molly- and that is limited to chasing the dalmation around- mating? Observations of the guppies shows mostly the males swimming around together, and are usually leaving her alone

I had high ammonia in the first week of January from improper cycling, but the latest tests have come back clean for all the nasty byproducts- the only water ? I have is on the hardness, as I am on well water- I have a softener but I am using un-softened water for the tank

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02-03-2006, 10:29 AM	#3
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Kids n Fish Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lannon WI Posts: 17 User Feedback: (0)	Adding fish dilemna I am adding to my 29g tank for the third time. There has been some ignorance on my part, helped by a chain-store outlet, and a true LFS and what I have needs to be supplemented for inhabitant happiness. I was anxious to start, and the clerks wanted to please my kids... I really can only fault myself for not coming here before I did anything My stock intervals are 2 weeks, & I do a 30% water change weekly Tank: 29 gallon, 100 watt, elite 35 power filter Ornaments:1 big castle, 4 various sized/leafed plastic plants My filter has 2 elements, #1 is a sponge which I just rinse in removed tank water, and #2 is a carbon element with a polyester pad, replaced 2 weeks ago, rinsed this apst week. Filter indicator says its clogging- again! Stock 1: Zebra danio, gold danio, cory cat, sunburst molly (m), dalmation molly, silver molly (deceased), swordtail(m), micky-mouse platy Stock 2: silver molly replaced, 4 fancy guppies (2m, 2f, 1 lost), 3 otos, blackskirt tetra, 2 neons Sometime after that I got 2 babies (Speck & Spot), who have probably been eaten. My dilemna is that I have learned that my neons, black skirts, danios should all be schooled, and my guppies are reverse populated. I also have a wife who wants a disc gora... and has been turned on to a glassfish- but I know now not to get one of the injecteds. I also want to get something in the bubbly department, trying to figure out what to get and where to put it. More plants also- leaning towards the fine leafed items so they aren't dumping collectors Last edited by Kids n Fish; 02-03-2006 at 09:16 AM. Reason: addendum

02-03-2006, 09:53 AM	#2
fishn00b Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 401 User Feedback: (0)	The cory cats should also be schooled if I remember correctly. Your female guppy probably won't have much hope as the two males will most likely wear her out from their constant wanting to mate (This is what happened with only one male and one female in my tank). Don't add any other fish such such as the disc gora or the glassfish (I have two of them, and I think they like to be kept in pairs or groups). If I could recommend something, I would say go with atleast two more danios, one more neon, and two blackskirt tetras (In the wild, different types of tetras won't school, but in an aquarium I think they might). All this is if you have more room for fish. As it looks right now you seem to be pretty well stocked, and I wouldn't recommend getting anything, perhaps you can take something back or get another tank? What might help is the addition of live plants. I believe if you keep live plants it separates the tank more, and helps oxyginate the water so more fish can be kept. I have live plants in all of my tanks and the water is very clear and it looks a lot nicer with them. I'm just thinking this stuff off the top of my head and you would probably want to check with some of the other members here on what they think.

02-03-2006, 11:02 AM	#4
Kids n Fish Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lannon WI Posts: 17 User Feedback: (0)	Tank age is about a month and a half. The only 'bully' is the sunburst molly- and that is limited to chasing the dalmation around- mating? Observations of the guppies shows mostly the males swimming around together, and are usually leaving her alone I had high ammonia in the first week of January from improper cycling, but the latest tests have come back clean for all the nasty byproducts- the only water ? I have is on the hardness, as I am on well water- I have a softener but I am using un-softened water for the tank

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