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Old 07-26-2007, 04:58 AM   #41
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I would say that the second one is the best, but I don't really like any of them.


That just so happens to be the fixture (48" Outer Orbit) that I have on my main Display tank!
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:09 AM   #42
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I don't know much about skimmers and such, but here's the equipment I plan to get.

Skimmer: http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/group/11302/product.web Nice, Entry Level Skimmer.

Lighting: http://store.seacorals.net/cuusa4856ouo.html I Love it, Own one myself!

Salt Mix: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113009 (The Reef Mix) Eww, Should be http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113009

Heater: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113767 Excellent heater choice!

Powerhead: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113040 (Pair) Should be 2X m820 http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113040

Filter: Fuval 305, Bio-Wheel 350B. NO, No, NO!! Should be at the very least http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...8&N=2004+22778 and at the very best http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113080 a REFUGIUM with light and Macro Algae!! Canisters are NOT for full time SW use!

Along with an Instant Ocean Hydrometer. EWWWW....INacurrate to say the least! http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113761 is the only way to go!



All I need is feedback on the equipment above. If you see anything that is not a good idea, please suggest something better so were not going over this alllllll day. :P Thanks a bunch for all your help!
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:17 AM   #43
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I would also recommend doing alot of reading and research as well. There are alot of good books to read on saltwater aquaria keeping. The Conscientious Marine Aquarist by Fenner is a good start.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:41 PM   #44
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That just so happens to be the fixture (48" Outer Orbit) that I have on my main Display tank!

haha no offense was meant, just not one i would chose...but then to tell you the truth I wouldn't honestly chose anything that wasn't T5s
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How bout these? These are T5HO's. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...=1&N=2004+2032

Although I figured ill be running into the 2k range with that. I guess it all depends if my mom can get my a loan. :P 40 bucks a month is lot when your income is seasonal.
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After doin a bunch of math, I finally have my list! Next step: Read... A lot

2 - OCELLARIS CLOWN TANK RAISED S.
1 - SIX LINE WRASSE
1 - ROYAL GRAMMA S.
1 - BIMACULATUS BLENNY
2 - Chalk Bass
1 - Kole Tang (Unsure about this one, I read it wouldn't eat inverts, and if I feed it nice food's it won't eat my other fish. Total: $108
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90lbs - Fiji Live Rock
90lbs - ARAGONITE REEF SAND (Don't know much about it though, trying to save a little bit of money): $272
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1 - CLOVE POLYP CORAL M.
1 - COLORED LOBO BRAIN STONY CORAL S.
1 - BUBBLE CORAL S.
1 - GREEN FINGER LEATHER CORAL M.
1 - STAR POLYP: GREEN M. Total: $172
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1 - 75 Gallon Acrylic Aquarium
1 - 75 Gallon Aquarium Stand Total: $340
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1 - Python
1 - Refractometer (The One Reefneck suggested!)
2 - SEIO Pump m820
1 - Tropic Marine Sea Salts Pro-Reef 200G
1 - MegaFlow Sump Filter Model 3
1 - Super Skimmer Needle Wheel 65 Gallon Total: $646
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1 - Current 48" Outer Orbit MH Strip Light 560w
(Get's it's own catagory cuz it's so expensive) Total: $630


Total Cost: $2168 At the end of all of this, im estimating a total of $2300
Ill start taking donations!

Thank's for all your help guys.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:41 AM   #47
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How bout these? These are T5HO's. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...=1&N=2004+2032

Although I figured ill be running into the 2k range with that. I guess it all depends if my mom can get my a loan. :P 40 bucks a month is lot when your income is seasonal.

It seems that one opinion for T5's is overshadowing the fact that Metal Halides are the BEST uption for a Reef. Some Acros, Anemones and many other animals really need the intensity of halides.

I am not dissing T5's! T5's were my idea for Bear's tank. It was what suited HIS situation best. It is not the same for everybody. Don't just jump on one thing and think that is the best option for all applications. Why would I suggest T5's and Use halides?? Because it works better for MY tank.

Nuff said, Do as you wish.

And by the way, That link is still a Metal Halide fixture with T5 Actinics instead of PC actinics. When it comes to the actinics it matters little if T5 or PC.
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After doin a bunch of math, I finally have my list! Next step: Read... A lot

2 - OCELLARIS CLOWN TANK RAISED S.
1 - SIX LINE WRASSE
1 - ROYAL GRAMMA S.
1 - BIMACULATUS BLENNY
2 - Chalk Bass
1 - Kole Tang (Unsure about this one, I read it wouldn't eat inverts, and if I feed it nice food's it won't eat my other fish. Total: $108

1 - 75 Gallon Acrylic Aquarium
1 - 75 Gallon Aquarium Stand Total: $340
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Thank's for all your help guys.
I'm not sure why you are "unsure about a "Kole Tang". Tangs harm nothing on a reef. They are algae eaters. So I am confused.

Why Acrylic? Scratch city and costs more.
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I used floating sg readers before and then got my refractometer, i love it! will never go back to any other one. Very easy to use and quick to read.

Mandrin, once ur tank is ready down the road, make sure have LFS feed it before hand, just to see if it already takes prepared foods, will better ur chances for survival.
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I'm not sure why you are "unsure about a "Kole Tang". Tangs harm nothing on a reef. They are algae eaters. So I am confused.

Why Acrylic? Scratch city and costs more.
Well, I knew they don't hurt the reef, but I don't know about there behavior to other fish.
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Well, I knew they don't hurt the reef, but I don't know about there behavior to other fish.

Tangs are docile. Read before you make lists if you don't want to take the advice of others.
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Reading will also prevent us from having to give the same, repetitive advice over and over again.
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