New Set-up questions..

bsmith · 07-26-2007, 04:45 AM

Ok I have another thread on light, but I have a couple general questions..
I am new to saltwater and wanted some good information so here I am. I think I am going to get a 30-40gallon tank. I work about 10hours a day. I work far from my house. I want a set-up that will be condusive to my lifestyle. I was asking about light because I wanted live rock, but didn't know how much they needed in the day. I know that I am looking to get probably a couple clownfish, 2 tangs, some little starfish and a cleaner crab. I am not sure if that is too much or too little for a 30gallon tank. I love live coral but I want to make sure there are kinds that I can get that don't need a huge amount of tank lighting.
Any advice would be great !
thanks

**Fishfirst** · 07-26-2007, 03:13 PM

Tangs have no business being in a small tank like that long term... even 3 months can drive them into the ground.

bsmith · 07-26-2007, 04:11 PM

what else can i put in with a cleaner crab and some clowns in a 30gallon?

**Damon** · 07-27-2007, 12:41 AM

A goby, and a few firefish.

Ice · 07-27-2007, 07:32 AM

I agree with Damon ...

**Scuba Kid** · 07-27-2007, 09:21 AM

You can put alot of thing in that tank with a couple clownfish. What appeals to you?
I suggest getting and reading The Concientious Marine Aquarist by Robert Fenner. There is a lot of good information in it, especially when just starting up.

Also, by cleaner crab, do you mean cleaner shrimp?

harif87 · 07-27-2007, 01:40 PM

As mentioned above, tangs have no business being in a tank no larger than a 65g, theyre swimmers and have a bigger bioload that needs to be handled.

With a tank that size your very limited as far as livestock goes. I mean if i had a 30g i would probably dedicate it to inverts. Try getting your hands on something bigger.

**Fishfirst** · 08-06-2007, 09:29 AM

a lot of small gobies would work. Yellow watchman, Red banded Hifin, Clown, cleaner, and several other gobies would do you good. I would take a look at liveaquaria and check out some fish species. Gobies being my first choice another thought is small fairy wrasses or a pygmy angel (the latter not always reef safe but shrimp safe) I would look for 3-5, 1-4" fish and come back with a list of 10-20 and we can weed out some of the harder to keep species.

07-26-2007, 04:45 AM	#1
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	New Set-up questions.. Ok I have another thread on light, but I have a couple general questions.. I am new to saltwater and wanted some good information so here I am. I think I am going to get a 30-40gallon tank. I work about 10hours a day. I work far from my house. I want a set-up that will be condusive to my lifestyle. I was asking about light because I wanted live rock, but didn't know how much they needed in the day. I know that I am looking to get probably a couple clownfish, 2 tangs, some little starfish and a cleaner crab. I am not sure if that is too much or too little for a 30gallon tank. I love live coral but I want to make sure there are kinds that I can get that don't need a huge amount of tank lighting. Any advice would be great ! thanks __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000

07-26-2007, 03:13 PM	#2
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,546	Tangs have no business being in a small tank like that long term... even 3 months can drive them into the ground. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

07-26-2007, 04:11 PM	#3
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	what else can i put in with a cleaner crab and some clowns in a 30gallon? __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000

07-27-2007, 12:41 AM	#4
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	A goby, and a few firefish. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

07-27-2007, 09:21 AM	#6
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 18 Posts: 4,224	You can put alot of thing in that tank with a couple clownfish. What appeals to you? I suggest getting and reading The Concientious Marine Aquarist by Robert Fenner. There is a lot of good information in it, especially when just starting up. Also, by cleaner crab, do you mean cleaner shrimp? __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

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07-27-2007, 07:32 AM	#5
Ice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 43 Posts: 532	I agree with Damon ...

07-27-2007, 01:40 PM	#7
harif87 Minor Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 996	As mentioned above, tangs have no business being in a tank no larger than a 65g, theyre swimmers and have a bigger bioload that needs to be handled. With a tank that size your very limited as far as livestock goes. I mean if i had a 30g i would probably dedicate it to inverts. Try getting your hands on something bigger. __________________ sorry for beating you senseless "The human torch was denied a bank loan"

08-06-2007, 09:29 AM	#8
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,546	a lot of small gobies would work. Yellow watchman, Red banded Hifin, Clown, cleaner, and several other gobies would do you good. I would take a look at liveaquaria and check out some fish species. Gobies being my first choice another thought is small fairy wrasses or a pygmy angel (the latter not always reef safe but shrimp safe) I would look for 3-5, 1-4" fish and come back with a list of 10-20 and we can weed out some of the harder to keep species. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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