Anyone see any issues with this sump design?

predator · 02-02-2008, 05:56 PM

so basically here is whats up...

water comes into the back right chamber (as viewed in the iso) via a sypen tube fromt he main tank... this chamber (which contains the skimmer) fills with water and overflows into the left back chamber... This chamber contains a pump and the heater... the water is then pumed into the tank, or the fuge.... The water that is pummed into the fuge eventually flows over the top and back into left rear chamber...

When a water changes is needed the left rear chamber can be emptied via a drain tube with a valve... then simply heated and pumped through the system...

any thoughts...

the foot print is 10"x10" and it is approx 12 inches tall... the rear chambers have a foot print of 5"x5"... this should add about 5 gallons to the volume of the tank...

prolly going get like a 80 gph pump and runn 60 or so to the tank and 20 to the fuge...

-me

jones57742 · 02-02-2008, 08:44 PM

predator

I have absolutely no experience with salt water and the closest that I have ever come to a refugium is the induction of plants into and lighting for the second chamber of my sump.

The details which you posted appear similar to several prefab wet/drys.

Having said the above and IMHO you will be way better off, if you have the available space, to use a horizontal instead of a substantially vertical process.

In addition and as I am sure you know the rated capacity of the external pump which you are proposing is based on zero head and the pump size will need to be based on head (energy) losses and the head/discharge curve for your pump.

Based on my visiting with SW folks the rate of flow required in the tank is much greater than that which will allow appropriate filtration.
The wet/dry will only be effective at turnovers of 10 per hour or less.
Hence they have power heads in their tanks.

TR

predator · 02-03-2008, 10:55 AM

I guess i should have expained better... this will be running a 10 gallon tank MSOWLR (mantis shrimp) tank and will be sitting right beside the tank so no head...

What is the right turn over rate for a fuge? like 5/hour or less?

-me

leveldrummer · 02-04-2008, 09:48 PM

no offense, but it seems overly complicated, why not just set up a small 5 or 7 gallon tank, with a light over it, have gravity feed into the tank, and a small pump that returns the water into the main tank, or... just keep up with the water changes on the 10 gallon, all this stuff isnt really neccesary at all unless you just really want a fuge.

02-02-2008, 05:56 PM	#1
predator Pirates get all the booty Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR Age: 25 Posts: 231	Anyone see any issues with this sump design? so basically here is whats up... water comes into the back right chamber (as viewed in the iso) via a sypen tube fromt he main tank... this chamber (which contains the skimmer) fills with water and overflows into the left back chamber... This chamber contains a pump and the heater... the water is then pumed into the tank, or the fuge.... The water that is pummed into the fuge eventually flows over the top and back into left rear chamber... When a water changes is needed the left rear chamber can be emptied via a drain tube with a valve... then simply heated and pumped through the system... any thoughts... the foot print is 10"x10" and it is approx 12 inches tall... the rear chambers have a foot print of 5"x5"... this should add about 5 gallons to the volume of the tank... prolly going get like a 80 gph pump and runn 60 or so to the tank and 20 to the fuge... -me __________________ He spoke with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it. Last edited by predator; 02-02-2008 at 06:01 PM.

02-02-2008, 08:44 PM	#2
jones57742 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Age: 56 Posts: 625	predator I have absolutely no experience with salt water and the closest that I have ever come to a refugium is the induction of plants into and lighting for the second chamber of my sump. The details which you posted appear similar to several prefab wet/drys. Having said the above and IMHO you will be way better off, if you have the available space, to use a horizontal instead of a substantially vertical process. In addition and as I am sure you know the rated capacity of the external pump which you are proposing is based on zero head and the pump size will need to be based on head (energy) losses and the head/discharge curve for your pump. Based on my visiting with SW folks the rate of flow required in the tank is much greater than that which will allow appropriate filtration. The wet/dry will only be effective at turnovers of 10 per hour or less. Hence they have power heads in their tanks. TR __________________ Hook Em Horns ... Keep Austin Weird

02-03-2008, 10:55 AM	#3
predator Pirates get all the booty Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR Age: 25 Posts: 231	I guess i should have expained better... this will be running a 10 gallon tank MSOWLR (mantis shrimp) tank and will be sitting right beside the tank so no head... What is the right turn over rate for a fuge? like 5/hour or less? -me __________________ He spoke with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it.

02-04-2008, 09:48 PM	#4
leveldrummer something like a pimp Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Age: 29 Posts: 1,933	no offense, but it seems overly complicated, why not just set up a small 5 or 7 gallon tank, with a light over it, have gravity feed into the tank, and a small pump that returns the water into the main tank, or... just keep up with the water changes on the 10 gallon, all this stuff isnt really neccesary at all unless you just really want a fuge. __________________ The meek shall inherit the Earth. Big deal. By the time they get it the rest of us will have messed it all up.

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