Live Rock and Live Sand

gdwb10101 · 04-15-2006, 09:10 PM

I was looking at the prices of live rock and live sand today to put in my new 55 gallon aquarium and realized how expensive it is! So i was walking the dog when it hit me, since i live in miami, go to the ocean and get some live rock and live sand. This may sound stupid, but is it possible to do this? Any there any dangers or problems with doing this, because I dont see people readily going to the ocean and bringing back sand and rock for their aquarium, they just buy from LFS. Let me know.

tamccain · 04-16-2006, 12:06 AM

It is a possibility that doing it would be illegal. You should check the laws before you to and start pulling stuff out of the ocean to put in your aquarium

PinStripes · 08-29-2006, 09:25 PM

Hey,

I did some diving in the keys and found me some really good live rocks and save alot of money too. The rocks are just awesome. I dont know if its illegal. It might be! It aint cheating unless you get caught!

Pin

gdwb10101 · 08-29-2006, 09:34 PM

i believe it is very illegal. Trust me i thought about the same thing, but when i read that it was illegal, i forgot about it on the spot.

Bear · 08-29-2006, 11:20 PM

why would it be illegal? It isnt illegal to bring sand home from the beach...why would it be to bring it that xtra step and put it in the aquarium?

**Damon** · 08-30-2006, 06:28 AM

Its very illegal to take rock from the ocean. Sand isn't so bad. Taking liverock will result in HEAVY fines and LONG jail sentences. Murderers get less time usually.

Reefneck · 08-30-2006, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simpte

Its very illegal to take rock from the ocean. Sand isn't so bad. Taking liverock will result in HEAVY fines and LONG jail sentences. Murderers get less time usually.

Absolutely True!

Just buy 50% Live Rock & 50% Base Rock. Cheaper that way & the base rock will become live rock in 6 months or less.

Use aragonite based sand. Seed it with a small cup full from a friends established tank or a little from your LFS and it too will become live.

These are the poor mans tips for Live Rock & Live Sand.

Keri

**Fishfirst** · 08-30-2006, 10:03 AM

Its highly illegal and very unmoral.

The liverock you and I buy are actually from man made reefs. Rock that was dumped in the ocean letting it sit for years and establishing biomass. If it wasn't done this way... our reefs would be in terrible danger and under extreeme exploitation. If every reef aquarist would take even 20-30lbs of liverock from the ocean that wasn't man made, there wouldn't be any reef left after maybe only a decade.

"Hey,

I did some diving in the keys and found me some really good live rocks and save alot of money too. The rocks are just awesome. I dont know if its illegal. It might be! It aint cheating unless you get caught!

Pin"

This statement really sadens me, did you ever consider what you did was illegal?

flamingo · 08-30-2006, 02:38 PM

The only place I know of it even slightly being legal is in places in hawaii, but you can only take about a pound and a half a day. That's only what i've heard, no clue if there's any truth to it.

04-15-2006, 09:10 PM	#1
gdwb10101 Newblit Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miami Age: 19 Posts: 251 User Feedback: (0)	Live Rock and Live Sand I was looking at the prices of live rock and live sand today to put in my new 55 gallon aquarium and realized how expensive it is! So i was walking the dog when it hit me, since i live in miami, go to the ocean and get some live rock and live sand. This may sound stupid, but is it possible to do this? Any there any dangers or problems with doing this, because I dont see people readily going to the ocean and bringing back sand and rock for their aquarium, they just buy from LFS. Let me know.

08-29-2006, 09:34 PM	#4
gdwb10101 Newblit Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miami Age: 19 Posts: 251 User Feedback: (0)	i believe it is very illegal. Trust me i thought about the same thing, but when i read that it was illegal, i forgot about it on the spot. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-2X8l49uQ

08-29-2006, 11:20 PM	#5
Bear Salty Pants Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a Big Yellow House Age: 20 Posts: 894 User Feedback: (0)	why would it be illegal? It isnt illegal to bring sand home from the beach...why would it be to bring it that xtra step and put it in the aquarium? __________________ My Reef My Puffer Tank My Photos

08-30-2006, 06:28 AM	#6
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	Its very illegal to take rock from the ocean. Sand isn't so bad. Taking liverock will result in HEAVY fines and LONG jail sentences. Murderers get less time usually. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

08-30-2006, 10:03 AM	#8
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Soon to be Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,485 User Feedback: (1)	Its highly illegal and very unmoral. The liverock you and I buy are actually from man made reefs. Rock that was dumped in the ocean letting it sit for years and establishing biomass. If it wasn't done this way... our reefs would be in terrible danger and under extreeme exploitation. If every reef aquarist would take even 20-30lbs of liverock from the ocean that wasn't man made, there wouldn't be any reef left after maybe only a decade. "Hey, I did some diving in the keys and found me some really good live rocks and save alot of money too. The rocks are just awesome. I dont know if its illegal. It might be! It aint cheating unless you get caught! Pin" This statement really sadens me, did you ever consider what you did was illegal? __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

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04-16-2006, 12:06 AM	#2
tamccain Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 29 Posts: 5 User Feedback: (0)	It is a possibility that doing it would be illegal. You should check the laws before you to and start pulling stuff out of the ocean to put in your aquarium

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PinStripes Fishy Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 14 User Feedback: (0)	Hey, I did some diving in the keys and found me some really good live rocks and save alot of money too. The rocks are just awesome. I dont know if its illegal. It might be! It aint cheating unless you get caught! Pin

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flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 16 Posts: 1,892 User Feedback: (2)	The only place I know of it even slightly being legal is in places in hawaii, but you can only take about a pound and a half a day. That's only what i've heard, no clue if there's any truth to it. __________________ Color exists only in the mind. . Am I only a thought?

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