getting a female ready

frogyetta · 03-15-2005, 05:29 PM

I cant seem to get any of my females ready to breed. Any suggestions. i feed freeze dried blood worms, shrimp pellets, brine shrimp and betta pellets. Also does anyone have an extra daphnia culture?

Damon · 03-15-2005, 06:47 PM

I'm not sure I understand the question. With proper waterchanges and lots of protein and fat rich foods they should be ready.

frogyetta · 03-15-2005, 08:22 PM

The problem i have is i cant condition my females. none of them seem to want to carry eggs. they are all 4-8 months old

thatsfishy · 03-15-2005, 08:33 PM

Freeze-dried and dry foods aren't the greatest to condition any fish. Try some live and frozen foods, if you can get your hands on them.

Blackworms do wonders, but as I just stated in another thread, they do have the potential to cause internal parasites. beefheart is good too and high in fat as Simpte suggested, but wc's are a must after feeding, it's messy as hell.

Also, let them see the male until a few days before you want to spawn. Anticipation helps too.

anasfire23 · 03-15-2005, 11:37 PM

I fed all my females and males bloodworms once a day regardless of breeding or not. I put a frozen block of blood worms in a stainless steel cup and wait for it to defrost, drain off the excess liquid then feed them to my betta's using tweezers, this way there is very little waste and I don't need to do water changes that often to get rid of the decaying, uneaten food. My newer betta's wouldn't eat from the tip of the tweezers at first but it dind't take them long to realize that it wasn't a threat and there was food to be had. I'm not an expert in breeding, only having had one successful spawn so dar, but the females don't need to be full of eggs before you put them with them, most of the time they'll plump up from seeing the male and being in close proximity to him and I'm pretty sure that females always have some eggs inside them for release. But I suppose if you want a large spawn you'll be wanted them to plump up a little.

Good luck.

Damon · 03-16-2005, 07:50 AM

And remember, all females have eggs. Not the amount you may want, but she has some.

frogyetta · 03-16-2005, 05:04 PM

Then must be they wont spawn any good ideas? i leave he in a see thru jar for 2 days then (male has a bubble nest built ALL the time for me) i release her and even 3 days later i have no luck. I have tried with 6 female and 5 males all mixed....

thatsfishy · 03-16-2005, 05:24 PM

What setup are you using? Can you describe it? (Type of tank, water conditions, temperature, cover, etc.)

frogyetta · 03-16-2005, 05:34 PM

Ok i am using a 7 1/2 gallon tank half full, i have a few live palnts in it. it has oly a very small amount of gravel right under the plants. The Ph is 7.6. The Dh is soft. I leave the female in a square container inside the tank for about two days. I try and do this before a storm they say the lower pressure helps them. and after i release her for about 3 days then i pull her out. the temp if 81

(RC) · 03-16-2005, 06:23 PM

other the the gravel the system sounds great. Gravel is going to make the tank hard to clean after you get fry.

RC

frogyetta · 03-16-2005, 06:52 PM

yeah thats why its a fine fine gravel at the very base. but why wont they spawn???

(RC) · 03-16-2005, 07:38 PM

It just happens like that sometime. Trying adding a couple teaspoons of salt water mix and some Black Water extract to the water.

RC

frogyetta · 03-17-2005, 03:19 PM

I have salt in there. where do i find some Black Water extract?

Damon · 03-17-2005, 04:15 PM

Most LFS carry it. Walmart carries it also.

frogyetta · 03-17-2005, 06:42 PM

how much is it? lets just say i went a littleover board shopping the other day

frogyetta · 03-17-2005, 06:42 PM

also would it make THAT much of a diffrence?

(RC) · 03-17-2005, 07:00 PM

It can make enough of a difference to get them to spawn. You might want to try almond leaves also. I just bought 50 almond leaf tea bags from wasan betta on aquabid.

RC

thatsfishy · 03-17-2005, 08:55 PM

Mhhhh ... there's nothing like a fresh cup of "Almond fish poop tea" ....

I use the whole leafs (and break off pieces if needed) from Majestic Bettas. http://www.majesticbettas.com/supplyshop/almondleaf.htm, but if you want something now ....Black Water Extract is the next best thing.

frogyetta · 03-18-2005, 02:00 PM

Thanks alot ill go to wal mart tonight and the black water extract. I hope it works!!! Also what size tank would be best?

frogyetta · 03-18-2005, 04:46 PM

I just went to walmart and couldnt find it. is it in the fish dpt.? is it under a dif name?

03-15-2005, 05:29 PM	#1
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	getting a female ready I cant seem to get any of my females ready to breed. Any suggestions. i feed freeze dried blood worms, shrimp pellets, brine shrimp and betta pellets. Also does anyone have an extra daphnia culture?

03-15-2005, 06:47 PM	#2
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,971	Re: getting a female ready I'm not sure I understand the question. With proper waterchanges and lots of protein and fat rich foods they should be ready. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

03-15-2005, 08:22 PM	#3
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Re: getting a female ready The problem i have is i cant condition my females. none of them seem to want to carry eggs. they are all 4-8 months old

03-15-2005, 08:33 PM	#4
thatsfishy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 185	Freeze-dried and dry foods aren't the greatest to condition any fish. Try some live and frozen foods, if you can get your hands on them. Blackworms do wonders, but as I just stated in another thread, they do have the potential to cause internal parasites. beefheart is good too and high in fat as Simpte suggested, but wc's are a must after feeding, it's messy as hell. Also, let them see the male until a few days before you want to spawn. Anticipation helps too. __________________ TF Member IBC and CNYBC. Shameless Plug -> CNYBC now offers *Betta Gear* - Get it while its HOT!

03-15-2005, 11:37 PM	#5
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583	I fed all my females and males bloodworms once a day regardless of breeding or not. I put a frozen block of blood worms in a stainless steel cup and wait for it to defrost, drain off the excess liquid then feed them to my betta's using tweezers, this way there is very little waste and I don't need to do water changes that often to get rid of the decaying, uneaten food. My newer betta's wouldn't eat from the tip of the tweezers at first but it dind't take them long to realize that it wasn't a threat and there was food to be had. I'm not an expert in breeding, only having had one successful spawn so dar, but the females don't need to be full of eggs before you put them with them, most of the time they'll plump up from seeing the male and being in close proximity to him and I'm pretty sure that females always have some eggs inside them for release. But I suppose if you want a large spawn you'll be wanted them to plump up a little. Good luck. __________________ ~60L Planted Community Tank~ Plants: 1 x Elodea Fish: 3 Month old guppy fry, mixed sex, 4 M & 3 F guppies, 1 x 10m old M DC Fry ~Male Bettas:~ Robin - HM or Delta CT Cyborg & Slade DC Fry Braedan - CT & Proud Daddy ~Female Bettas~ Starbuck & Scarlet CT Girls 190L (50G) Planted Tank Plants: 3 x Jungle Val, 1 x Ludwidgia Fish: 6 x Harlequin Rasboras, 6 Black, 5 glowlight & 12 Neon tetras, 2 Common Pleco's

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03-16-2005, 07:50 AM	#6
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,971	Re: getting a female ready And remember, all females have eggs. Not the amount you may want, but she has some. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

03-16-2005, 05:04 PM	#7
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Re: getting a female ready Then must be they wont spawn any good ideas? i leave he in a see thru jar for 2 days then (male has a bubble nest built ALL the time for me) i release her and even 3 days later i have no luck. I have tried with 6 female and 5 males all mixed....

03-16-2005, 05:24 PM	#8
thatsfishy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 185	What setup are you using? Can you describe it? (Type of tank, water conditions, temperature, cover, etc.) __________________ TF Member IBC and CNYBC. Shameless Plug -> CNYBC now offers *Betta Gear* - Get it while its HOT!

03-16-2005, 05:34 PM	#9
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Re: getting a female ready Ok i am using a 7 1/2 gallon tank half full, i have a few live palnts in it. it has oly a very small amount of gravel right under the plants. The Ph is 7.6. The Dh is soft. I leave the female in a square container inside the tank for about two days. I try and do this before a storm they say the lower pressure helps them. and after i release her for about 3 days then i pull her out. the temp if 81

03-16-2005, 06:23 PM	#10
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	other the the gravel the system sounds great. Gravel is going to make the tank hard to clean after you get fry. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

03-16-2005, 06:52 PM	#11
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Re: getting a female ready yeah thats why its a fine fine gravel at the very base. but why wont they spawn???

03-16-2005, 07:38 PM	#12
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	It just happens like that sometime. Trying adding a couple teaspoons of salt water mix and some Black Water extract to the water. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

03-17-2005, 03:19 PM	#13
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Re: getting a female ready I have salt in there. where do i find some Black Water extract?

03-17-2005, 04:15 PM	#14
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,971	Re: getting a female ready Most LFS carry it. Walmart carries it also. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

03-17-2005, 06:42 PM	#15
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Re: getting a female ready how much is it? lets just say i went a littleover board shopping the other day

03-17-2005, 06:42 PM	#16
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Re: getting a female ready also would it make THAT much of a diffrence?

03-17-2005, 07:00 PM	#17
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793	It can make enough of a difference to get them to spawn. You might want to try almond leaves also. I just bought 50 almond leaf tea bags from wasan betta on aquabid. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

03-17-2005, 08:55 PM	#18
thatsfishy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 185	Re: getting a female ready Mhhhh ... there's nothing like a fresh cup of "Almond fish poop tea" .... I use the whole leafs (and break off pieces if needed) from Majestic Bettas. http://www.majesticbettas.com/supplyshop/almondleaf.htm, but if you want something now ....Black Water Extract is the next best thing. __________________ TF Member IBC and CNYBC. Shameless Plug -> CNYBC now offers *Betta Gear* - Get it while its HOT!

03-18-2005, 02:00 PM	#19
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Thanks alot ill go to wal mart tonight and the black water extract. I hope it works!!! Also what size tank would be best?

03-18-2005, 04:46 PM	#20
frogyetta Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York Posts: 56	Re: getting a female ready I just went to walmart and couldnt find it. is it in the fish dpt.? is it under a dif name?

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