cycling???

kbjunior8 · 11-05-2007, 05:31 PM

ok just wondering when you cycle your tank and then clean your tank fully like full new water is your whole cycling process gone to waste?

mousey · 11-05-2007, 05:33 PM

you don't ever do 100 % changes for routine maintenance. if you have done a fishless cycle you change about 90% of the water before adding fish. The gravel is never removed from the tank to get cleaned.

ikermalli · 11-05-2007, 06:06 PM

Also when you are doing your routine WC's you could do maybe 10% every two days or 40-50% every week

Dr_House · 11-05-2007, 08:36 PM

Your cycle is still intact, so long as you aren't removing gravel or bio-media. However, such large water changes are really not necessary. I've heard of such measures for very overstocked tanks and for people raising fry, but as routine maintenance, it really shouldn't be necessary. If it is necessary, you may need to reconsider the number of fish in the tank.

kbjunior8 · 11-06-2007, 05:33 AM

sometimes when i put new decor my tank becomes really cloudy until i clean it is there another way to stop the water from being cloudy

kbjunior8 · 11-06-2007, 02:21 PM

my water is still cloudy??? its bothering me lol

oliesminis · 11-06-2007, 02:57 PM

what new decor?

kbjunior8 · 11-06-2007, 04:20 PM

no im saying after i cycle it and if i get new decor and put it in the water it gets cloudy

Dr_House · 11-06-2007, 04:40 PM

What kind of decor are you putting in? Wood and rocks will often cloud water even if rinsed thoroughly.

kbjunior8 · 11-06-2007, 06:34 PM

no just a fake plant and this barnacles decor from petsmart

Dr_House · 11-06-2007, 08:40 PM

The only thing I can think of that would cause that would be stirring something up from the substrate when you add the new decor. Other than that, I've got nothing. Sorry.

emc7 · 11-06-2007, 10:55 PM

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clean your tank fully like full new water is your whole cycling process gone to waste?

New water is ok, I do like to start a tank with 0 nitrate, but don't replace your media or gravel. 100% changes are safe when you don't have any fish. But still be careful to dechlor the water first.

kbjunior8 · 11-07-2007, 05:35 AM

ok thx guys

ikermalli · 11-07-2007, 02:29 PM

did u wash the stuff with hot water first?

kbjunior8 · 11-09-2007, 05:17 AM

i did but if you cant take out te gravel how do you take out your fishies poop or does ur gravel do that

emc7 · 11-09-2007, 08:24 AM

You suck out the fish poop with a "gravel washer". Its a siphon hose with a fat end. We tell people to leave the gravel alone during cycling, but after that take out your water change water with the gravel washer to get the poop too.

ikermalli · 11-09-2007, 02:26 PM

You have a gravel vac so just push it down on the spot with the poo then it will start going up it if it does not make the full way and you are still siphoning move the vacuum to a place that will give more water

11-05-2007, 05:31 PM	#1
kbjunior8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 172	cycling??? ok just wondering when you cycle your tank and then clean your tank fully like full new water is your whole cycling process gone to waste? __________________ 10 Gallon Tank 1 male vieltail betta (red) name: Zuljana

11-05-2007, 05:33 PM	#2
mousey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 807	you don't ever do 100 % changes for routine maintenance. if you have done a fishless cycle you change about 90% of the water before adding fish. The gravel is never removed from the tank to get cleaned. __________________ mousey Toronto. Canada

11-05-2007, 06:06 PM	#3
ikermalli Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 708	Also when you are doing your routine WC's you could do maybe 10% every two days or 40-50% every week __________________ Take a look at my site http://aquariumexpertise.freeforums.org/

11-06-2007, 05:33 AM	#5
kbjunior8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 172	sometimes when i put new decor my tank becomes really cloudy until i clean it is there another way to stop the water from being cloudy __________________ 10 Gallon Tank 1 male vieltail betta (red) name: Zuljana

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kbjunior8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 172	my water is still cloudy??? its bothering me lol __________________ 10 Gallon Tank 1 male vieltail betta (red) name: Zuljana

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11-05-2007, 08:36 PM	#4
Dr_House Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 346	Your cycle is still intact, so long as you aren't removing gravel or bio-media. However, such large water changes are really not necessary. I've heard of such measures for very overstocked tanks and for people raising fry, but as routine maintenance, it really shouldn't be necessary. If it is necessary, you may need to reconsider the number of fish in the tank.

11-06-2007, 02:57 PM	#7
oliesminis FISH ARE FREINDS NOT FOOD Join Date: May 2007 Location: England, Milton Keynes Age: 15 Posts: 497	what new decor? __________________ OllieCoxPhotography

11-06-2007, 04:20 PM	#8
kbjunior8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 172	no im saying after i cycle it and if i get new decor and put it in the water it gets cloudy __________________ 10 Gallon Tank 1 male vieltail betta (red) name: Zuljana

11-06-2007, 04:40 PM	#9
Dr_House Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 346	What kind of decor are you putting in? Wood and rocks will often cloud water even if rinsed thoroughly.

11-06-2007, 06:34 PM	#10
kbjunior8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 172	no just a fake plant and this barnacles decor from petsmart __________________ 10 Gallon Tank 1 male vieltail betta (red) name: Zuljana

11-06-2007, 08:40 PM	#11
Dr_House Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 346	The only thing I can think of that would cause that would be stirring something up from the substrate when you add the new decor. Other than that, I've got nothing. Sorry.

11-07-2007, 05:35 AM	#13
kbjunior8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 172	ok thx guys __________________ 10 Gallon Tank 1 male vieltail betta (red) name: Zuljana

11-07-2007, 02:29 PM	#14
ikermalli Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 708	did u wash the stuff with hot water first? __________________ Take a look at my site http://aquariumexpertise.freeforums.org/

11-09-2007, 05:17 AM	#15
kbjunior8 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 172	i did but if you cant take out te gravel how do you take out your fishies poop or does ur gravel do that __________________ 10 Gallon Tank 1 male vieltail betta (red) name: Zuljana

11-09-2007, 08:24 AM	#16
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,290	You suck out the fish poop with a "gravel washer". Its a siphon hose with a fat end. We tell people to leave the gravel alone during cycling, but after that take out your water change water with the gravel washer to get the poop too.

11-09-2007, 02:26 PM	#17
ikermalli Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 708	You have a gravel vac so just push it down on the spot with the poo then it will start going up it if it does not make the full way and you are still siphoning move the vacuum to a place that will give more water __________________ Take a look at my site http://aquariumexpertise.freeforums.org/

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