betta tankmates

[CarterNichols]

Originally Posted by trashion

These aren't wild-caught fish, their "natural environment" really isn't relevant any more. They have been captive-bred for generations in heavily controlled climates.

well up to this point everyone has been going on about blah these are tropical must imitate natural (from the earth) environment..

if we are talking about captive bred only and that, then no betta in a store has a heater, and though as fry they may at the breeder they spend much more time at the store before being purchased

[AIRBORNEGUY]

Originally Posted by CarterNichols

buggy, in a bettas natural environment at night the water does drop to 50..

Water temps do not fluctuate much on a daily basis. It takes a steady, seasonal change in temperature to bring water temps down more than a few degrees.

[CarterNichols]

Originally Posted by AIRBORNEGUY

Water temps do not fluctuate much on a daily basis. It takes a steady, seasonal change in temperature to bring water temps down more than a few degrees.

you don't think that the water in rice patties drops at night?

[fish4fish]

Don't think Carter does research. Just putting out there what his "gf" fish has experienced, I don't really think its really helpful for you to put down other peoples advice when the other people have done research and may have even breed them as a hobby or job, are trying to help.

...hundreds of decades you said earlier...lol...and you said ""expert" opinion" hahah thats like desputing facts. lol reminds me of somethin Will Farrel did on SNL watch this, and skip to 1:50 lol sry but you just remind me of this so much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5r6TqpOQGc

[CarterNichols]

Originally Posted by fish4fish

Don't think Carter does research. Just putting out there what his "gf" fish has experienced, I don't really think its really helpful for you to put down other peoples advice when the other people have done research and may have even breed them as a hobby or job, are trying to help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5r6TqpOQGc

you are really funny, like i'm dying from your comical comments, but if you owned a betta, and or kept one for an extended amount of time you could quite possibly contribute to this conversation, you however don't and are jumping on a bandwagon of people that think everything they read on the internet must be right because someone who calls them self an expert on their website says so, when i made the comment about hundreds of experts for decades it was in response to some who said that trashion and the other kid had read hundreds of things of research that had been collected for decades... though i doubt they have read hundreds of books, pages, things what have you... that is what i said and meant, please learn to read and then keep your irrelevant and immature comments to your self.

tl;dr go back to myspace.

[JustOneMore20]

Alright, lets get this thread back on topic. If you aren't posting advice for vettech, don't post in this thread. I have no problem with you taking your arguements to PM.....just don't continue it here.

Originally Posted by vettech909

since i cant put sithigar with oswald,can i put the goldfish with a very peaceful,fat pacu?his name is mona and wont eat a small feeder goldfish and wont even bother his old tankmates.sithigar is WAY to big to fit in monas mouth.if that doesnt work out,can i put the goldfish in a tank with a common pleco and a little pacu?i know this is stupid and probly cant be done but can i put the goldfish with my jack dempseys?the tanks are undercrowded and can use a little more fish.wich would be the best?

Vettech, Pacus really shouldn't be kept by hobbyist. If this is your personal fish, I hope you have a really large tank for it (well over 200g). If not, you should take it to the lfs where you got it, as they should not be selling these. If the Pacu doesn't eat it now, it probably will eventually, seeing as how these fish get massive. I'm sure they make alot of waste, just like Goldies, so if you have the Pacu in a tank smaller than say 100g, leave the goldie where he is. If the goldfish is not in atleast a 20g, you need to get your goldie a bigger tank or find a pond to put it in.

I'd bet that a Jack Dempsey would eat a goldfish if it would fit in its mouth. Plus, JDs are tropical fish and goldfish aren't. Your best bet is to find your goldfish a pond, especially if its a Comet.

As for your betta, what size tank is it in? Are you still wanting tankmates for it or is this really more about the goldfish?

Vettech, I apologize to you for the thread hijack.

[vettech909]

i rescued the goldfish from a puddle and it is in a really big pickle jar.i washed it firsti do want to get tankmates for my betta but dont know what to do with my goldfish.the pacu was in a 55 at 1 foot but now he is in a 500 gallon and it covers the whole wall!!!

[vettech909]

i rescued the goldfish from a puddle and it is in a really big pickle jar.i washed it firsti do want to get tankmates for my betta but dont know what to do with my goldfish.the pacu was in a 55 at 1 foot but now he is in a 500 gallon and it covers the whole wall!!!

[Ricker]

My betta is in a heated 10g right now temp is around 80. He loves his friends in the tank mollies and platys and now a new fish unknown at the time. he doesn't fight with any of them

[trashion]

A jar? Oh dear...

Is it a common or fancy goldfish? If it's a fancy (the poochy-bellied ones usually with 2 tails) then it needs around 29 gallons. If it's a comet goldfish, it doesn't really belong in a tank-it needs a pond :\

[Ricker]

A a really big pickle jar is better then a puddle!

[emc7]

So this question at hand is "Is the goldfish better off in a 500 gallon tank with Jack Demseys or in a pickle jar? right? If the goldfish won't fit in the demsey's mouth and there are several suitable hiding places for it, I would think the answer is yes. There is a chance the Demseys will kill it just because it's there, but theres a chance the pickle jar will get knocked down and broken.

I'm not sure that its better for the Demsey, though.
Does the goldfish look sick at all? Has he been in the jar long enough for an effective quarantine. You would hate to lose the big ones because of a rescue fish.

BTW: I am sick of the betta needs a heater/no they don't debate. Make a new thread instead jumping in ever time the word betta comes up.

[vettech909]

the jd are in a 120 gallon and the pacu is in the 500.he use to be in a 55.she is showing no sighns of poor health.she is a gold koi because the person who had her had a pond and the koi mated with a goldfish.they dumped the babies in a sewer and it overflowed.that was just stupid!!!i moved her into a bowl with a top.she almost jumped out.this is just so complicated!!!she is still small but i think i could keep her in monas old tank with another small koi.the koi belongs to my friend so i will give it back to her wwhen i get a pond buit this fall.now she will eat tubfex worms out of my hand.she is a killer!i put her in with my feeder guppy tank and she ate over 50!!!

[Ice]

Originally Posted by JustOneMore20

Pacus really shouldn't be kept by hobbyist.

Not to start another argument here ... if you say Pacus shouldn't be kept by hobbyists then why do LFS all across the USA sell them to begin with ? I realize they do get quite large, In fact one LFS in my area has one that's at least 20 inches, if not larger, and is housed in a large tank by himself. If the hobbyist are knowledgeble and knows how big they do get, then there's no reason why they can't be kept.

[Buggy]

Thats the problem. Most beginning hobbiest don't realize this and the fish stores know it so they can sell them easily. It's all about making money for them. A lot of fish get sold to the public that shouldn't be. If the fish stores would only sell to people that have the tanks big enough to keep them properly and inform the buyer of how big they get and how they need to be kept then there wouldn't be a problem but they will sell to anybody that can lay down the cash. Not all of them are that way but 90% of them are.

[oliesminis]

going back to the original question of tank mates for bettas, i keep a red betta in a 10g tank with a few corys and some zebra danios, it is densly planted so he doesnt trouble them.

-olie

ps he has lived in this setup for over half a year happily, however i am planning on getting rid of the small fish and just having him and bettas.

[emc7]

I had a koi for one day, it jumped out. The do need lids. Make your best guess for temporary home and watch the fish. Hopefully you will be able to tell when some one is about to be lunch.

Dumping exotic fish (koi are from Asia) down the sewer is illegal as will as stupid. In some places the sewer can overflow into streams and rivers. Even if the fish end up at the screen in the water treatment plant, thats a cruel death. Its better to kill them and eat them. Better yet, find a koi club and sell the babies.

[vettech909]

anyway,i moved him into monas tank and got 2 silver dollars and they get along exellent.they swim in schools and sithigar cracked the automatic feeder and i had to get an algea eater.that was a real mistake!now the aquarium is full!sithigar is doing well and yall helped me solve my problem!!!thanks!!!

[oliesminis]

hard to unserstand that post very mixed up can you try and split each individual bit up to make it easier to read.

from what i understood its going well so well done,

-olie