The spawn log

[lohachata]

i really don't believe that stunting is a genetic issue...moreso i believe that it is a maintenance issue...the 3 major factors in fish growth is heat...diet and water.....
if you have 30 fish in a 5 or 10 gallon tank , you need to be doing 50% water changes at least 4 times a week..for the bettas i would suggest...temp 82-84 temp...feed high quality food formulated for fry and 50% water changes every other day or even more often...

i can't remember how many times i have recommended that you keep Aquari Sol and Lifebearer on hand to treat diseases...
i cannot think of a disease that bleach will not kill..

[emc7]

There are reports of fish TB surviving bleach, and crap like parasites hiding in snails and snails surviving a trip through a fish. But most diseases can be beat with bleach and QT (you may have to write off infected fish).

I agree stunting is usually water. Massive continual water changes can make fish grow big in very, very small containers. There could also be a nutrition effect. Even discus keepers will bring up the Calcium & carbonate levels in fry tanks so that bones can grow faster. Parasites can stunt fish, too, by starving them.

Only occasionally will you see a genetic "runt", but it certainly could be more likely in hybrids.

[Betta man]

They're purebloods, so it's probably my fault. This disease survived being bleached, dried out, left in the sun, and scrubbed. It's probably some superbug.

[Angelclown]

I doubt that any disease survives that. The fish may have been harboring the diseases and when stress hit, bam they got sick. Fish can harbor disease until something stresses them, then their immune system goes down and they get sick.

I would make sure that your water is pristine clean.

[Betta man]

The last fish in that tank had dropsy. These fish were both healthy before they got into that tank.

[Betta man]

The fry aren't really growing. I'm going to do water changes, so maybe they'll grow after the water changes. Also, my imbellis are starting to get aggressive and the females are barring up. I'm guessing they'll be sexually mature next month.

[Angelclown]

Keep the water pristine clean. Do your water changes every day or so, or however often the fry can tolerate water changes. But most importantly KEEP THE WATER PRISTINE CLEAN, otherwise you will risk disease and losing those fry.

[Betta man]

For 5 fry in a 10 gallon, I don't think that every other day is needed for water changes, but will do more water changes.

[Betta man]

Haven't updated in a while. The fry died because I didn't care for them properly. I am going to try to spawn my imbellis in February. I have decided that I will try to do daily water changes and feed them vinegar eels, bbs, decap bbs, and infusoria. I am also wanting to try breeding a fertile super black female betta. I have an idea for it which might work. I don't think it's been tried before.

[Angelclown]

Sorry you lost your fry. Better luck next time.

[Betta man]

I am going to be keeping the adults in buckets outside when they need to be separated. It is going to be about 80 at coldest and I'll cover the buckets up so that the coons don't eat the bettas.

[cossie]

Sorry to hear bettaman, do you sell your bettas?

[lohachata]

yes....if you want to buy dead bettas..
if you are going to neglect your fish ; then you shouldn't be keeping them...

[Betta man]

Loha, I respectfully request that you keep your sarcastic remarks to yourself. Thank you. I will be trying to sell imbellis fry as they are valuable fish and decently rare. Here's some pics of my pair that I'll be spawning. The female isn't fully colored up in the pic. These fish are still juveniles and are about 5 months old.

[Betta man]

Here is a picture of their father. I do not have any pictures of their mother. Their parents were wild caught and sold to the person who bred mine by pibk.