Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is??

anasfire23 · 02-04-2005, 12:50 AM

Hey there.. If anyone can tell me what sex and breed this betta is please tell me. ta

chrisinha · 02-04-2005, 01:42 AM

im not an expert, but it looks like a female to me. a crown tale maybe?

anasfire23 · 02-04-2005, 03:31 AM

Well I thought it was a female aswell, until I put it in with my red male to breed and found him on the bottom of the tank ripped to shreds whilst that one had no damage to it at all. Also when I put it next to my other blue male they flare at each other, last I checked that wasn't female behavior. I did buy it as a female, paid $2 less for it aswel but I think it may have been a juvenile male mistaken for a female.Tthose tail colours and the bulk of the red on the back of the body have only appeared in the past 2 weeks. I just wanted to see if anyone else agreed with me that it's more likely to be a male than a female. It explains why I had no success trying to spawn it with my males when I had everything set up right.

(RC) · 02-04-2005, 03:35 AM

Sometimes females can act that way, but you might have a male plakat ( short finned splenden) I can't really tell from the picture because of the angle.

RC

anasfire23 · 02-04-2005, 05:11 AM

Here's a pic of the front of it. Hope you can tell from this one. i'm just confused, I didn't think that the females attacked the males. If anything shouldn't it be the female that was all beat up?

**Damon** · 02-04-2005, 08:13 AM

Still cant give you a deffinite answer but looking at fin shape and body shape its a she.

MB75 · 02-04-2005, 08:53 AM

Adult female betta splendens has the ovipository visible all the time. It is under the tummy, right next to where they poop. I small white button. In the pictures I cannot see it, but you can check it youself, too, or send a picture where we can see the fish more from below. If it is not there, then this one is a short-finned male. It might be so.

(RC) · 02-04-2005, 11:58 AM

I've had more males killed the females over the years.

RC

anasfire23 · 02-04-2005, 08:15 PM

I had a good look under the fishand i can't see any little white dot. There are fins all down it's undercarrage and I can't see anything under where that bulge is behind it's gills? It reacts like a male when put next to another male, flares up and swims around it's tank like a nut. I've taken some pic and a short video of it and I'm going to show someone at my local aquarium shop and see if they can tell me. Regarless I'm gonna buy another female today, and try my hardest to get a female this time. Thanks all who commented

(RC) · 02-04-2005, 09:09 PM

Sounds like you have a male.

RC

anasfire23 · 02-05-2005, 12:13 AM

Yeah, I think it's a male aswel, I can't see any dot at all anywhere. I got a female today, I'm pretty certian this one is a female coz there is a little white spot just behind those 2 little fins that hang down under her belly. Anyway I've got her settling into her new surroundings with some live brine shrimp and I'm gonna put her tank next to the spawning tank tomorrow and condition her with the male before releasing her into it with him. I'll take some pics of her and post them when I get a chance. It's starting to get a little dark here now so I can't at the moment. Thanks all.

(RC) · 02-05-2005, 07:14 AM

Good luck.

RC

anasfire23 · 02-06-2005, 01:00 AM

I have a 40 second video of how that fish reacted when I placed it next to one of my other males if anyone wants to see it and help me solve this mystery send me a pm with your email or yahoo/msn Id and i'll arrange to send it to you. Thanks... attached is a ****pic of my new female. Enjoy, anyone know what breed she is?

PS She changes colours... from the colour and pattern you see in the pic to a deep blue/green

**Cichlid Man** · 02-06-2005, 04:35 AM

Even a male and female can have a good tussle from time to time.

platy3 · 02-10-2005, 03:32 PM

I am new to bettas, and just bought two that were sold to me as males. Both have a very visible white opening on their underside. Does this mean they are actually females?

(RC) · 02-10-2005, 06:55 PM

Are they short finned or long finned ?

RC

platy3 · 02-11-2005, 07:49 AM

One is bigger than the other, and has longer fins. Neither seem to have really long fins. I will work on getting a picture posted for clarity (if I can figure it out!)

Lydia · 02-11-2005, 09:33 AM

it could be a short fin male

platy3 · 02-11-2005, 09:35 AM

Here is a picture of one of them. (Hope it comes through).

platy3 · 02-11-2005, 09:36 AM

Hey, it worked! Here is the second one. Any help on their gender would be appreciated. Like I said above, they both have a very visible white dot on their underside.

02-04-2005, 12:50 AM	#1
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583 User Feedback: (0)	Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? Hey there.. If anyone can tell me what sex and breed this betta is please tell me. ta Attached Images

02-04-2005, 03:31 AM	#3
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583 User Feedback: (0)	Well I thought it was a female aswell, until I put it in with my red male to breed and found him on the bottom of the tank ripped to shreds whilst that one had no damage to it at all. Also when I put it next to my other blue male they flare at each other, last I checked that wasn't female behavior. I did buy it as a female, paid $2 less for it aswel but I think it may have been a juvenile male mistaken for a female.Tthose tail colours and the bulk of the red on the back of the body have only appeared in the past 2 weeks. I just wanted to see if anyone else agreed with me that it's more likely to be a male than a female. It explains why I had no success trying to spawn it with my males when I had everything set up right. __________________ ~60L Planted Community Tank~ Plants: 1 x Elodea Fish: 3 Month old guppy fry, mixed sex, 4 M & 3 F guppies, 1 x 10m old M DC Fry ~Male Bettas:~ Robin - HM or Delta CT Cyborg & Slade DC Fry Braedan - CT & Proud Daddy ~Female Bettas~ Starbuck & Scarlet CT Girls 190L (50G) Planted Tank Plants: 3 x Jungle Val, 1 x Ludwidgia Fish: 6 x Harlequin Rasboras, 6 Black, 5 glowlight & 12 Neon tetras, 2 Common Pleco's

02-04-2005, 03:35 AM	#4
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793 User Feedback: (0)	Sometimes females can act that way, but you might have a male plakat ( short finned splenden) I can't really tell from the picture because of the angle. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-04-2005, 05:11 AM	#5
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? Here's a pic of the front of it. Hope you can tell from this one. i'm just confused, I didn't think that the females attacked the males. If anything shouldn't it be the female that was all beat up? Attached Images

02-04-2005, 08:13 AM	#6
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? Still cant give you a deffinite answer but looking at fin shape and body shape its a she. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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02-04-2005, 01:42 AM	#2
chrisinha Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 383 User Feedback: (0)	im not an expert, but it looks like a female to me. a crown tale maybe?

02-04-2005, 08:53 AM	#7
MB75 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 77 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? Adult female betta splendens has the ovipository visible all the time. It is under the tummy, right next to where they poop. I small white button. In the pictures I cannot see it, but you can check it youself, too, or send a picture where we can see the fish more from below. If it is not there, then this one is a short-finned male. It might be so.

02-04-2005, 11:58 AM	#8
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793 User Feedback: (0)	I've had more males killed the females over the years. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-04-2005, 08:15 PM	#9
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583 User Feedback: (0)	I had a good look under the fishand i can't see any little white dot. There are fins all down it's undercarrage and I can't see anything under where that bulge is behind it's gills? It reacts like a male when put next to another male, flares up and swims around it's tank like a nut. I've taken some pic and a short video of it and I'm going to show someone at my local aquarium shop and see if they can tell me. Regarless I'm gonna buy another female today, and try my hardest to get a female this time. Thanks all who commented __________________ ~60L Planted Community Tank~ Plants: 1 x Elodea Fish: 3 Month old guppy fry, mixed sex, 4 M & 3 F guppies, 1 x 10m old M DC Fry ~Male Bettas:~ Robin - HM or Delta CT Cyborg & Slade DC Fry Braedan - CT & Proud Daddy ~Female Bettas~ Starbuck & Scarlet CT Girls 190L (50G) Planted Tank Plants: 3 x Jungle Val, 1 x Ludwidgia Fish: 6 x Harlequin Rasboras, 6 Black, 5 glowlight & 12 Neon tetras, 2 Common Pleco's

02-04-2005, 09:09 PM	#10
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793 User Feedback: (0)	Sounds like you have a male. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-05-2005, 12:13 AM	#11
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583 User Feedback: (0)	Yeah, I think it's a male aswel, I can't see any dot at all anywhere. I got a female today, I'm pretty certian this one is a female coz there is a little white spot just behind those 2 little fins that hang down under her belly. Anyway I've got her settling into her new surroundings with some live brine shrimp and I'm gonna put her tank next to the spawning tank tomorrow and condition her with the male before releasing her into it with him. I'll take some pics of her and post them when I get a chance. It's starting to get a little dark here now so I can't at the moment. Thanks all. __________________ ~60L Planted Community Tank~ Plants: 1 x Elodea Fish: 3 Month old guppy fry, mixed sex, 4 M & 3 F guppies, 1 x 10m old M DC Fry ~Male Bettas:~ Robin - HM or Delta CT Cyborg & Slade DC Fry Braedan - CT & Proud Daddy ~Female Bettas~ Starbuck & Scarlet CT Girls 190L (50G) Planted Tank Plants: 3 x Jungle Val, 1 x Ludwidgia Fish: 6 x Harlequin Rasboras, 6 Black, 5 glowlight & 12 Neon tetras, 2 Common Pleco's

02-05-2005, 07:14 AM	#12
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793 User Feedback: (0)	Good luck. RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-06-2005, 01:00 AM	#13
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? I have a 40 second video of how that fish reacted when I placed it next to one of my other males if anyone wants to see it and help me solve this mystery send me a pm with your email or yahoo/msn Id and i'll arrange to send it to you. Thanks... attached is a ****pic of my new female. Enjoy, anyone know what breed she is? PS She changes colours... from the colour and pattern you see in the pic to a deep blue/green Attached Images

02-06-2005, 04:35 AM	#14
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? Even a male and female can have a good tussle from time to time. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

02-10-2005, 03:32 PM	#15
platy3 Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? I am new to bettas, and just bought two that were sold to me as males. Both have a very visible white opening on their underside. Does this mean they are actually females?

02-10-2005, 06:55 PM	#16
(RC) nobody Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: upstate NY Age: 46 Posts: 793 User Feedback: (0)	Are they short finned or long finned ? RC __________________ "Lead by Example, Follow by Choice" http://www.ibcbettas.org/ http://www.cnybc.org/

02-11-2005, 07:49 AM	#17
platy3 Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? One is bigger than the other, and has longer fins. Neither seem to have really long fins. I will work on getting a picture posted for clarity (if I can figure it out!)

02-11-2005, 09:33 AM	#18
Lydia Ichthus Owner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: FL Posts: 1,907 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? it could be a short fin male

02-11-2005, 09:35 AM	#19
platy3 Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? Here is a picture of one of them. (Hope it comes through). Attached Images

02-11-2005, 09:36 AM	#20
platy3 Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15 User Feedback: (0)	Re: Does anyone know what sex and breed this fish is?? Hey, it worked! Here is the second one. Any help on their gender would be appreciated. Like I said above, they both have a very visible white dot on their underside. Attached Images

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