Betta ~n~ ADFs

kaybee · 11-27-2005, 06:12 PM

I got 3 small ADFs Friday night. This morning I found one of the froggies dead. He looked as though one of his little "arms" was half gone.

Would Mario the betta have done something like this? I noticed when we first put the frogs in the tank, one of them kinda chased after Mario's tailfin. He is light blue and has some red streaks in his fins. I'm wondering if the frog thought his stripes where bloodworms???

Kay

BettaMommy · 11-29-2005, 10:39 PM

I would think that it is possible for a betta to kill a frog. Now whether your betta did or not is between it and the other ADF. There is no way of knowing for sure how your frog died and why.

kaybee · 11-30-2005, 05:47 AM

Thanks Betta mommy!

I know I'll never know exactly what happened. This is my first Betta and I was just wondering if it sounded like something that was possible and/or probable.

Kay

Georgia Peach · 11-30-2005, 06:39 AM

yes, its highly possible. My mom put a frog in with her Betta and it started to attack the frog after a few hours. Not sure why but it did.

**Damon** · 11-30-2005, 06:44 AM

I don't know where this started or even why but bettas belong by themselves, not with other tankmates.

Georgia Peach · 11-30-2005, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simpte

I don't know where this started or even why but bettas belong by themselves, not with other tankmates.

yeah, I knew that but my mom didnt - she does now though... I got her another small tank so she could have frogs and such.. Her betta is in a 5 gal (or something like that) and the frogs are in antoher one.

kaybee · 11-30-2005, 10:54 AM

Oooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

LOL

I had read threads in this group and I researched fish that would be compatible with bettas.

Looks like Mario is moving out then.

Kay

Georgia Peach · 11-30-2005, 11:23 AM

people put other fish with bettas alot and sometimes they are able to live in the same tank without killing each other - but no one ever said the betta liked it.. lol

kaybee · 11-30-2005, 03:38 PM

I've had this betta for just over a month....and I _thought_ he was going to be OK but then in the past week he's been getting really aggressive. I think I'll go get him his own "space" tomorrow.

I'm hoping I can find some eco-substrate for my 10g so I can move some of the gravel into his smaller tank to help it cycle.

Kay

RockabillyChick · 11-30-2005, 09:24 PM

are you people stupid?

"Bettas belong alone, not with other tankmates"

thats a load of bull. bettas can totally live in a community tank, in fact its very healthy for them. now, the tank cant be over crowded, and the betta cant be in with fin nippers, or fish that are shaped similarly to a betta, with long flowy fins. otherwise there will be problems.

if you have your betta in a 1 gallon bowl and threw in 3 adf's, i'm surprised all three of them arent dead yet. thats way too small of a tank. now, put a betta in a 10 gallon with a couple ADF's, and maybe a few small tetras, like glowlights or neons, and everything is totally cool.

bettas make great community fish, it just has to be the right community.

also, sometimes you get bettas that are just more agressive than others, but that doesnt mean ALL of them need to be kept alone. most bettas will do great in a community tank, its just occasionally one wont.

Courtney · 11-30-2005, 09:41 PM

So i am not the only person that has betta's in a community tank, We have a male and female in the 55 gallon with a parrot, 2 silver dollars, a whale catfish, a Rapheal cat, 3 killifish, peac0ck eel, 3 dwarf platies,a dojo loach and snails, and then in my 20 gallon up stairs in my room i have a short tailed male betta named spike in with guppies, and a dojo and cories and snails he doesnt hurt a thing...

Beerleader · 11-30-2005, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockabillyChick

are you people stupid?

"Bettas belong alone, not with other tankmates"

thats a load of bull. bettas can totally live in a community tank, in fact its very healthy for them. now, the tank cant be over crowded, and the betta cant be in with fin nippers, or fish that are shaped similarly to a betta, with long flowy fins. otherwise there will be problems.

if you have your betta in a 1 gallon bowl and threw in 3 adf's, i'm surprised all three of them arent dead yet. thats way too small of a tank. now, put a betta in a 10 gallon with a couple ADF's, and maybe a few small tetras, like glowlights or neons, and everything is totally cool.

bettas make great community fish, it just has to be the right community.

also, sometimes you get bettas that are just more agressive than others, but that doesnt mean ALL of them need to be kept alone. most bettas will do great in a community tank, its just occasionally one wont.

That wasn't very nice. You yourself got angry the other day because you felt like ppl were talking to you like you were a moron and then you turn around and called someone stupid because their opinion differs from yours. Not trying to be rude but that was a little unnecessary and not very considerate

.

RockabillyChick · 11-30-2005, 11:00 PM

no, its not that simptes oppinion differs from mine, its that they're flat out WRONG.

micstarz · 12-01-2005, 01:45 AM

Courtney, I've had betta in a community tank too. I had a 20gal with two mild males and tetras.

I agree with you Beerleader. I hate arguments on forums.

Imbrium · 12-01-2005, 07:39 AM

RockabillyChick, Simpte knows more about bettas than you ever will. You need to calm down.
99% of the time bettas do NOT belong in community tanks. Things will go fine with them for awhile, but they almost always end up either killing one of the other fish, or getting ripped to shreds themselves. A betta that is healthy is supposed to be very aggressive.

Guppy-Frog-Girl · 12-01-2005, 08:36 AM

I guest it all depends on the betta.... At one time I had 24 bettas and they all lived long and happy lives, But they all have different personalities... I had one that would stress itself out when you would even put by another fish and not even necessarily another betta...He was very aggressive and moody. Then on the other hand I've had one that lived peacefully with a female betta, Never hurt her once, and in a community tank. So I think it just depends on the personality of your fish. Some are extremely aggressive and some are more passive than normal, healthy but passive. But it is possible that your betta did hurt your frog...<<<---- Just my opinion

Courtney · 12-01-2005, 09:57 AM

The only thing Spike my betta bothers is the baby guppies, he eats all those he can find....

11-27-2005, 06:12 PM	#1
kaybee Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 98	Betta ~n~ ADFs I got 3 small ADFs Friday night. This morning I found one of the froggies dead. He looked as though one of his little "arms" was half gone. Would Mario the betta have done something like this? I noticed when we first put the frogs in the tank, one of them kinda chased after Mario's tailfin. He is light blue and has some red streaks in his fins. I'm wondering if the frog thought his stripes where bloodworms??? Kay __________________ 10 Gallon tank ~4 platy ~about 11 fry at various stages of development ~a few beginner plants ~1 mystery snail 1 Gallon ~Mario the betta 1 Gallon ~Luigi the other betta ~Dreaming of a sw reef~

11-29-2005, 10:39 PM	#2
BettaMommy Owner of Shea's Cavies Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Age: 18 Posts: 243	I would think that it is possible for a betta to kill a frog. Now whether your betta did or not is between it and the other ADF. There is no way of knowing for sure how your frog died and why. __________________ ...Unfortunately Fishless... 1 Tiel named Freckles 1 Mini-Dachshund named Danny 3 Cats named Molly, Kovu, and Pharah 5 Guinea Pigs named Timothy, Toby, Kadari, Bambi, and London Marie Fuzzbutt 1 soon to be rat named Snuffles

11-30-2005, 05:47 AM	#3
kaybee Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 98	Thanks Betta mommy! I know I'll never know exactly what happened. This is my first Betta and I was just wondering if it sounded like something that was possible and/or probable. Kay __________________ 10 Gallon tank ~4 platy ~about 11 fry at various stages of development ~a few beginner plants ~1 mystery snail 1 Gallon ~Mario the betta 1 Gallon ~Luigi the other betta ~Dreaming of a sw reef~

11-30-2005, 06:39 AM	#4
Georgia Peach Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gray, Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 1,581	yes, its highly possible. My mom put a frog in with her Betta and it started to attack the frog after a few hours. Not sure why but it did. __________________ *Cichlids have more personality than most people I know !*

11-30-2005, 06:44 AM	#5
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	I don't know where this started or even why but bettas belong by themselves, not with other tankmates. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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11-30-2005, 10:54 AM	#7
kaybee Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 98	Oooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LOL I had read threads in this group and I researched fish that would be compatible with bettas. Looks like Mario is moving out then. Kay __________________ 10 Gallon tank ~4 platy ~about 11 fry at various stages of development ~a few beginner plants ~1 mystery snail 1 Gallon ~Mario the betta 1 Gallon ~Luigi the other betta ~Dreaming of a sw reef~

11-30-2005, 11:23 AM	#8
Georgia Peach Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gray, Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 1,581	people put other fish with bettas alot and sometimes they are able to live in the same tank without killing each other - but no one ever said the betta liked it.. lol __________________ *Cichlids have more personality than most people I know !*

11-30-2005, 03:38 PM	#9
kaybee Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 98	I've had this betta for just over a month....and I _thought_ he was going to be OK but then in the past week he's been getting really aggressive. I think I'll go get him his own "space" tomorrow. I'm hoping I can find some eco-substrate for my 10g so I can move some of the gravel into his smaller tank to help it cycle. Kay __________________ 10 Gallon tank ~4 platy ~about 11 fry at various stages of development ~a few beginner plants ~1 mystery snail 1 Gallon ~Mario the betta 1 Gallon ~Luigi the other betta ~Dreaming of a sw reef~

11-30-2005, 09:24 PM	#10
RockabillyChick Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 22 Posts: 298	are you people stupid? "Bettas belong alone, not with other tankmates" thats a load of bull. bettas can totally live in a community tank, in fact its very healthy for them. now, the tank cant be over crowded, and the betta cant be in with fin nippers, or fish that are shaped similarly to a betta, with long flowy fins. otherwise there will be problems. if you have your betta in a 1 gallon bowl and threw in 3 adf's, i'm surprised all three of them arent dead yet. thats way too small of a tank. now, put a betta in a 10 gallon with a couple ADF's, and maybe a few small tetras, like glowlights or neons, and everything is totally cool. bettas make great community fish, it just has to be the right community. also, sometimes you get bettas that are just more agressive than others, but that doesnt mean ALL of them need to be kept alone. most bettas will do great in a community tank, its just occasionally one wont. __________________ She does nothing to deserve it He only wants to observe it We sit back like they taught us We keep quiet like they taught us He just wants, he wants to prove it She does nothing to remove it We don't want anyone to mind us So we play the roles that they assigned us She does nothing to conceal it He touches her 'cause he wants to feel it We blame her for being there But we are all guilty http://rockabillychick.deviantart.com/

11-30-2005, 09:41 PM	#11
Courtney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rogers, Ohio, USA Age: 25 Posts: 260	So i am not the only person that has betta's in a community tank, We have a male and female in the 55 gallon with a parrot, 2 silver dollars, a whale catfish, a Rapheal cat, 3 killifish, peac0ck eel, 3 dwarf platies,a dojo loach and snails, and then in my 20 gallon up stairs in my room i have a short tailed male betta named spike in with guppies, and a dojo and cories and snails he doesnt hurt a thing...

11-30-2005, 11:00 PM	#13
RockabillyChick Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Age: 22 Posts: 298	no, its not that simptes oppinion differs from mine, its that they're flat out WRONG. __________________ She does nothing to deserve it He only wants to observe it We sit back like they taught us We keep quiet like they taught us He just wants, he wants to prove it She does nothing to remove it We don't want anyone to mind us So we play the roles that they assigned us She does nothing to conceal it He touches her 'cause he wants to feel it We blame her for being there But we are all guilty http://rockabillychick.deviantart.com/

12-01-2005, 01:45 AM	#14
micstarz I'm Back! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Earth Age: 13 Posts: 658	Courtney, I've had betta in a community tank too. I had a 20gal with two mild males and tetras. I agree with you Beerleader. I hate arguments on forums. __________________

12-01-2005, 07:39 AM	#15
Imbrium Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 26 Posts: 384	RockabillyChick, Simpte knows more about bettas than you ever will. You need to calm down. 99% of the time bettas do NOT belong in community tanks. Things will go fine with them for awhile, but they almost always end up either killing one of the other fish, or getting ripped to shreds themselves. A betta that is healthy is supposed to be very aggressive.

12-01-2005, 08:36 AM	#16
Guppy-Frog-Girl Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Age: 28 Posts: 51	I guest it all depends on the betta.... At one time I had 24 bettas and they all lived long and happy lives, But they all have different personalities... I had one that would stress itself out when you would even put by another fish and not even necessarily another betta...He was very aggressive and moody. Then on the other hand I've had one that lived peacefully with a female betta, Never hurt her once, and in a community tank. So I think it just depends on the personality of your fish. Some are extremely aggressive and some are more passive than normal, healthy but passive. But it is possible that your betta did hurt your frog...<<<---- Just my opinion __________________ 10 GALLON 5 NEON TETRAS 1 GHOST SHRIMP 6 FANCY MALE GUPPIES 1 Pleco 2 Adult African Dwarf Frogs 1 Baby African Dwarf Frog 1 Lyre Tail Dalmatian Molly 20 GALLON 3 YOUNG RED EARED SLIDERS (TURTLES) 10 GALLON under construction!!! SOON to be an ACF tank... 1.5 GALLON 1 ADULT PAIR OF ALBINO AFRICAN CLAWED FROGS 1.5 GALLON 1 Beautiful Red, pink, and light blue betta

12-01-2005, 09:57 AM	#17
Courtney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rogers, Ohio, USA Age: 25 Posts: 260	The only thing Spike my betta bothers is the baby guppies, he eats all those he can find....

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