I have fry! - Page 2

Skylarbelle1977 · 10-09-2006, 01:23 PM

now I only see about 10. It is a graveled 29 gallon so they could be hiding. Very discouraging because there was over 100 at first. mom and dad are still scooping them up and moving them. I wish they would just give it up! I have seen the babies eat the bbs. so so cute! My goal is for 3 to make it. now that the numbers keep falling, I wonder if I will get any to survive. Maybe next time I will remove them from mom and dad after they hatch.

Blue · 10-09-2006, 05:59 PM

Your angels look quite nice.

I have a pair of gold angels which spawned for the first time last Sept. They ate the eggs an hour later. It's understandable that first time spawners will generally eat them.

emc7 · 10-09-2006, 11:02 PM

As long as the parents are tending them and not fighting each other they will do better with parents than without. Feed them 3 or 4 times a day heavily and keep an eye on water quality.

unclerick666 · 10-10-2006, 12:14 AM

HI! many folks, including angel and betta breeders, have had great success with a food I sell on AquaBid and also sometimes here.
it's called "BETTER THAN BRINE".

It's 20 times more nutritious than the brine shrimp that are mostly water, and it swims!

So....if your sick of dealing with the mess and aggravation of live foods, or just want to have a safe source of food when a culture fails, you should give it a try.

check out My auctions, or send Me an email if You'd like a sample to try!

all the best.....UNCLE

flamingo · 10-10-2006, 06:29 PM

Yay for free advertisement! lol

unclerick666 · 10-10-2006, 08:39 PM

It also will work with captive breed seahorses!
no one has tried it with wild caught, but, it should work for them as well, so.......... if You'd like a sample, just drop Me a line!

doggydad38 · 10-12-2006, 01:48 PM

I guess it all depends on what you get used to. I've had serious trouble keeping microworms alive. BBS, on the other hand, is so simple for me. Your equipment is the key. It would take too long for me to explain how I do everything, but none of my fry ever go hungry. I raise Guppies and they get nothing but BBS for the first week and then supplemental feedings twice a day after that.
Tony

emc7 · 10-13-2006, 12:14 AM

lol, my microworms do great, but I have trouble with BBS (except frozen). Do you think its my water (very soft, slightly acid). Should I add buffer with the salt when I hatch BBS.

darkfalz · 10-13-2006, 12:38 AM

I leave my microworms in the fridge for MONTHS and MONTHS without even giving them air, there's always enough alive to start a new culture.

Skylarbelle1977 · 10-16-2006, 08:15 AM

I assume that they ate the fry because each day it was less and less (I suppose it is possible that they died) anyway there were none at about 4 days free swimming. Then 3 days later she laid eggs again and 2 days after that I have wrigglers. I am debating whether or not I want to remove them from the parents when they are free swimming. Last time once the eggs hatched she moved them all to a different leaf, this time she has kept them in the same spot.

judya · 10-16-2006, 10:45 AM

One thing about feeding fry, is make sure you keep up with excellent water quality. Many people keep the fry in a bare bottom tank, so it is easy to siphon up any debris. And it might be easier to move the parents than the fry.

darkfalz · 10-16-2006, 09:37 PM

I would absolutely recommend rearing fry in a bare bottomed tank. I've only now, at 4 months, put them all in gravel tanks - because only now do they pretty much finish 90% of the food before it sinks to the bottom. With small fry they spend a lot of time picking at the leftovers at the ground, and other things that are growing there that they eat.

Skylarbelle1977 · 10-17-2006, 09:27 AM

I have prepared a bare bottom tank for them. should I wait until they are free swimming or move them now? (they are just wiggly on a leaf now)

darkfalz · 10-17-2006, 07:48 PM

I popped the mother into the bare tank before she had the fry, so I never had to move them. What's important is the that new tank water be the same as the other tank, and that you move the fry carefully in water (including the leaf if you can?) because you cant net such young fry.

emc7 · 10-17-2006, 09:45 PM

You can siphon either wigglers or free swimming fry with a piece of tubing and pitcher. I would take some and leave some for the parents to practice with. They may eventually get it right. Fry can die from poor nutrition or from poor water quality. It is easy to overfeed and foul the water, and hard to change water in a fry tank without suckiing them up, but it is necessary to get them clean water. Catch the fry you sucked up with a medicine cup and put them back. The parents will often eat the spawn if they feel threatened or exposed so you could try a towel on the tank, cardboard between tanks, extra plastic plants, that sort of thing. When the fry stop obeying the parents fin twitches and go all over the tank, it is time to separate them from the parents. It is rare to get to this point with angels, but I'm trying. If I can get one pair that will do all of the fry-raising work, i'll get rid of all my others.

10-10-2006, 12:14 AM	#24
unclerick666 Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 23	HI! many folks, including angel and betta breeders, have had great success with a food I sell on AquaBid and also sometimes here. it's called "BETTER THAN BRINE". It's 20 times more nutritious than the brine shrimp that are mostly water, and it swims! So....if your sick of dealing with the mess and aggravation of live foods, or just want to have a safe source of food when a culture fails, you should give it a try. check out My auctions, or send Me an email if You'd like a sample to try! all the best.....UNCLE Attached Images

10-10-2006, 06:29 PM	#25
flamingo One Word: Croutons. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 17 Posts: 1,897	Yay for free advertisement! lol __________________ If you put "u" instead of typing out the actual, shocking, three letter word... i'm not going to read your ramblings. I'm so behind it's not even funny.

10-13-2006, 12:38 AM	#29
darkfalz Vishy vishies! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 29 Posts: 476	I leave my microworms in the fridge for MONTHS and MONTHS without even giving them air, there's always enough alive to start a new culture. __________________ 40L planted - 1 (opaline?) gourami 160L planted - 9 harlequin rasboras, 3 platys, 3 swordtails, 1 guppy

10-16-2006, 09:37 PM	#32
darkfalz Vishy vishies! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 29 Posts: 476	I would absolutely recommend rearing fry in a bare bottomed tank. I've only now, at 4 months, put them all in gravel tanks - because only now do they pretty much finish 90% of the food before it sinks to the bottom. With small fry they spend a lot of time picking at the leftovers at the ground, and other things that are growing there that they eat. __________________ 40L planted - 1 (opaline?) gourami 160L planted - 9 harlequin rasboras, 3 platys, 3 swordtails, 1 guppy

10-17-2006, 07:48 PM	#34
darkfalz Vishy vishies! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Age: 29 Posts: 476	I popped the mother into the bare tank before she had the fry, so I never had to move them. What's important is the that new tank water be the same as the other tank, and that you move the fry carefully in water (including the leaf if you can?) because you cant net such young fry. __________________ 40L planted - 1 (opaline?) gourami 160L planted - 9 harlequin rasboras, 3 platys, 3 swordtails, 1 guppy

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10-09-2006, 01:23 PM	#21
Skylarbelle1977 Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 12	now I only see about 10. It is a graveled 29 gallon so they could be hiding. Very discouraging because there was over 100 at first. mom and dad are still scooping them up and moving them. I wish they would just give it up! I have seen the babies eat the bbs. so so cute! My goal is for 3 to make it. now that the numbers keep falling, I wonder if I will get any to survive. Maybe next time I will remove them from mom and dad after they hatch.

10-09-2006, 05:59 PM	#22
Blue Care Bear Lover Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dancing with the Devil Posts: 132	Your angels look quite nice. I have a pair of gold angels which spawned for the first time last Sept. They ate the eggs an hour later. It's understandable that first time spawners will generally eat them.

10-09-2006, 11:02 PM	#23
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,854	As long as the parents are tending them and not fighting each other they will do better with parents than without. Feed them 3 or 4 times a day heavily and keep an eye on water quality.

10-10-2006, 08:39 PM	#26
unclerick666 Fishy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 23	It also will work with captive breed seahorses! no one has tried it with wild caught, but, it should work for them as well, so.......... if You'd like a sample, just drop Me a line!

10-12-2006, 01:48 PM	#27
doggydad38 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 189	I guess it all depends on what you get used to. I've had serious trouble keeping microworms alive. BBS, on the other hand, is so simple for me. Your equipment is the key. It would take too long for me to explain how I do everything, but none of my fry ever go hungry. I raise Guppies and they get nothing but BBS for the first week and then supplemental feedings twice a day after that. Tony

10-13-2006, 12:14 AM	#28
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,854	lol, my microworms do great, but I have trouble with BBS (except frozen). Do you think its my water (very soft, slightly acid). Should I add buffer with the salt when I hatch BBS.

10-16-2006, 08:15 AM	#30
Skylarbelle1977 Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 12	I assume that they ate the fry because each day it was less and less (I suppose it is possible that they died) anyway there were none at about 4 days free swimming. Then 3 days later she laid eggs again and 2 days after that I have wrigglers. I am debating whether or not I want to remove them from the parents when they are free swimming. Last time once the eggs hatched she moved them all to a different leaf, this time she has kept them in the same spot.

10-16-2006, 10:45 AM	#31
judya Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 55 Posts: 223	One thing about feeding fry, is make sure you keep up with excellent water quality. Many people keep the fry in a bare bottom tank, so it is easy to siphon up any debris. And it might be easier to move the parents than the fry.

10-17-2006, 09:27 AM	#33
Skylarbelle1977 Fishy Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 12	I have prepared a bare bottom tank for them. should I wait until they are free swimming or move them now? (they are just wiggly on a leaf now)

10-17-2006, 09:45 PM	#35
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 39 Posts: 2,854	You can siphon either wigglers or free swimming fry with a piece of tubing and pitcher. I would take some and leave some for the parents to practice with. They may eventually get it right. Fry can die from poor nutrition or from poor water quality. It is easy to overfeed and foul the water, and hard to change water in a fry tank without suckiing them up, but it is necessary to get them clean water. Catch the fry you sucked up with a medicine cup and put them back. The parents will often eat the spawn if they feel threatened or exposed so you could try a towel on the tank, cardboard between tanks, extra plastic plants, that sort of thing. When the fry stop obeying the parents fin twitches and go all over the tank, it is time to separate them from the parents. It is rare to get to this point with angels, but I'm trying. If I can get one pair that will do all of the fry-raising work, i'll get rid of all my others.

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