WELCOME to Breeding!

**TheOldSalt** · 05-26-2005, 10:47 AM

Well, it's finally here; a forum dedicated to the breeding of freshwater fish. Here we can discuss the various needs of individual species and families of freshwater fish in regards to their optimal health and breeding. How to condition the breeders, hatch the eggs, and raise the fry are only the beginning. Sexing the breeders, finding the triggers which make them spawn, and discussing the best breeding arrangements in male/female ratios and tank conditions are also going to be a big part of this forum. There's also feeding the fry, culture of live foods for fry and adults, culling, marketing, and much more.

Breeding is what has kept this hobby alive for the past century, and the way things are going in this world, we are certain to depend upon it more and more each year. This forum is designed for the purpose of helping to transform the casual hobbyists into the true fishkeepers who will keep the hobby going for future generations. One learns a great deal more about the hobby after having bred several species, and the hobby as a whole benefits.

We'll probably get a bunch of stickys in this forum, and it may even split into subforums for the various families of fish, but maybe not. The success of this forum depends completely on the traffic it gets, and indeed the same is true for all the new forums, so let's get posting!

**Damon** · 05-26-2005, 10:57 AM

Well I'll get started on some breeding profiles but I can't sticky here T.O.S.

Z Man · 05-26-2005, 11:38 AM

I have bred over 100 different cichlids; African and South American. Also well over 100 different 'other' species such as livebearers, cory, barbs, killiefish, rainbows just to name a few. Maybe I can help someone.

fishfreaks · 05-26-2005, 11:44 AM

awesome, its nice to finally have one!

**TheOldSalt** · 05-26-2005, 12:46 PM

You zee man, Z man!

Simpte, I can't sticky, either, but I'm sure the mods will sticky the good stuff they find.

shev · 05-26-2005, 05:04 PM

I've bred gouramis, (blue and gold) guppies (obviously) and buenos ares tetras (on accident).

I video taped my gouramis breeding, maybe I could do a profile with some video, if I could figure out how to post videos.and I could re-breed my buenos aires tetras with video too.

edit: oh, and thats quite impressive z man! I cant even name a hundred cichlids. =)

**Osiris** · 05-26-2005, 05:26 PM

z-man have u bred aulo. lwanda's?

Z Man · 05-27-2005, 12:12 AM

Sorry MPro but I only did some of the 'old' Haps and then turned to mostly Apistos and other dwarf SA's.

**Osiris** · 05-27-2005, 05:20 AM

ah i gotcha, Am getting in some nice group sizes of lemon jakes and Lwanda's was told that Lwanda' tend to be harder to breed and need extra attention(whatever that means lol)

**Cichlid Man** · 05-28-2005, 06:30 AM

Just a suggestion but I think that Simpte would be a good mod for this Forum. Ask Shaggy.

Larry-T · 05-28-2005, 05:11 PM

Hi, folks,

I've been breeding various egg-laying fish since 1962. My first two species were Blue Bouramis and Tilapia Mosambique. I've bred hundreds of species, pririmarily cichlids, killifish, anabantoides, gobies, and catfish.

I'm looking forward to sharing and learning with everyone here.

**TheOldSalt** · 05-28-2005, 07:35 PM

I can see Simpte as a mod for sure. He's always here, he's smart and personable, and knows a thing or three about fishkeeping.

shev · 05-28-2005, 07:57 PM

looks like we have a whole team of fish breeders here. glad to see a section devoted to breeding fish.

**Osiris** · 05-28-2005, 09:09 PM

It's funny how some people think wild fish should always look better then tank bred ones, but they forget that imported fish go through a pretty rough ride to get here...

**TheOldSalt** · 05-28-2005, 10:38 PM

Tank bred can look every bit as good as wildcaught if grown outside in pools where the sunlight can hit them, but I guess I don't quite grasp what you mean by that, MalawianPro. Do you mean that tankraised fish don't get exposed to the rigors of travel, and as such should look better than wildcaught, or that people should prefer tankraised over wild because it save the fish the rough trip, or that wildcaught fish would look even better if they didn't have a rough trip before we saw them?

Yes, shev, I had a feeling that there were a bunch of breeders around here who could make a breeding thread interesting. I'm sure we've only heard from a few so far.

shev · 05-30-2005, 04:38 PM

I could probably write one about breeding guppies, but thats it.

Quote:

It's funny how some people think wild fish should always look better then tank bred ones, but they forget that imported fish go through a pretty rough ride to get here...

well, tank raised fish are often juiced up with hormones before sold off to fish stores.

I agree though, lots of fish die before reaching the US. but its pretty hard to find a farm bred spiny eel, or clown loach.

**Damon** · 05-30-2005, 06:27 PM

I think its more about not letting nature work. There really isn't survival of the fittest in fishfarms. In nature, not every fish gets to breed and there is much less inbreeding than on farms who mass produce fish for sale. For example, some species of cories don't have the large dorsal fin once they are bred in a tank.

ALFA WOLF · 05-30-2005, 07:38 PM

Dont they switch fish from diffrent tankes to another tank to make room for breeding fish.

fishboy · 11-08-2005, 08:19 PM

I'm going to start breeding! I'm skipping livebearers and goning straight for elementary egg layers. When I grow up and get a good job(hopefully) I want to breed large and small oddballs and natives

Lara · 11-08-2005, 08:34 PM

I only know how to accidentally breed fish, lol

05-26-2005, 10:47 AM	#1
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,378	WELCOME to Breeding! Well, it's finally here; a forum dedicated to the breeding of freshwater fish. Here we can discuss the various needs of individual species and families of freshwater fish in regards to their optimal health and breeding. How to condition the breeders, hatch the eggs, and raise the fry are only the beginning. Sexing the breeders, finding the triggers which make them spawn, and discussing the best breeding arrangements in male/female ratios and tank conditions are also going to be a big part of this forum. There's also feeding the fry, culture of live foods for fry and adults, culling, marketing, and much more. Breeding is what has kept this hobby alive for the past century, and the way things are going in this world, we are certain to depend upon it more and more each year. This forum is designed for the purpose of helping to transform the casual hobbyists into the true fishkeepers who will keep the hobby going for future generations. One learns a great deal more about the hobby after having bred several species, and the hobby as a whole benefits. We'll probably get a bunch of stickys in this forum, and it may even split into subforums for the various families of fish, but maybe not. The success of this forum depends completely on the traffic it gets, and indeed the same is true for all the new forums, so let's get posting! Last edited by Cichlid Man; 06-16-2005 at 02:52 PM.

05-26-2005, 10:57 AM	#2
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	Well I'll get started on some breeding profiles but I can't sticky here T.O.S. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

05-26-2005, 11:38 AM	#3
Z Man Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NY state Age: 63 Posts: 68	I have bred over 100 different cichlids; African and South American. Also well over 100 different 'other' species such as livebearers, cory, barbs, killiefish, rainbows just to name a few. Maybe I can help someone. __________________ Join an Aquarium Club in your area today!

05-26-2005, 11:44 AM	#4
fishfreaks M&F Couple Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: PA Age: 21 Posts: 4,303	awesome, its nice to finally have one! __________________ VOTE FOR FISH FORUMS

05-26-2005, 05:26 PM	#7
Osiris Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 25 Posts: 3,725	z-man have u bred aulo. lwanda's? __________________ Reality is for people who can't handle Science-Fiction

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05-26-2005, 12:46 PM	#5
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,378	You zee man, Z man! Simpte, I can't sticky, either, but I'm sure the mods will sticky the good stuff they find.

05-26-2005, 05:04 PM	#6
shev Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montana Age: 19 Posts: 1,561	I've bred gouramis, (blue and gold) guppies (obviously) and buenos ares tetras (on accident). I video taped my gouramis breeding, maybe I could do a profile with some video, if I could figure out how to post videos.and I could re-breed my buenos aires tetras with video too. edit: oh, and thats quite impressive z man! I cant even name a hundred cichlids. =)

05-27-2005, 12:12 AM	#8
Z Man Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NY state Age: 63 Posts: 68	Sorry MPro but I only did some of the 'old' Haps and then turned to mostly Apistos and other dwarf SA's. __________________ Join an Aquarium Club in your area today!

05-27-2005, 05:20 AM	#9
Osiris Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 25 Posts: 3,725	ah i gotcha, Am getting in some nice group sizes of lemon jakes and Lwanda's was told that Lwanda' tend to be harder to breed and need extra attention(whatever that means lol) __________________ Reality is for people who can't handle Science-Fiction

05-28-2005, 06:30 AM	#10
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	Simpte Just a suggestion but I think that Simpte would be a good mod for this Forum. Ask Shaggy. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

05-28-2005, 05:11 PM	#11
Larry-T Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Near Washington, DC Age: 59 Posts: 101	Hi, folks, I've been breeding various egg-laying fish since 1962. My first two species were Blue Bouramis and Tilapia Mosambique. I've bred hundreds of species, pririmarily cichlids, killifish, anabantoides, gobies, and catfish. I'm looking forward to sharing and learning with everyone here.

05-28-2005, 07:35 PM	#12
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,378	I can see Simpte as a mod for sure. He's always here, he's smart and personable, and knows a thing or three about fishkeeping.

05-28-2005, 07:57 PM	#13
shev Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montana Age: 19 Posts: 1,561	looks like we have a whole team of fish breeders here. glad to see a section devoted to breeding fish.

05-28-2005, 09:09 PM	#14
Osiris Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 25 Posts: 3,725	It's funny how some people think wild fish should always look better then tank bred ones, but they forget that imported fish go through a pretty rough ride to get here... __________________ Reality is for people who can't handle Science-Fiction

05-28-2005, 10:38 PM	#15
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,378	Tank bred can look every bit as good as wildcaught if grown outside in pools where the sunlight can hit them, but I guess I don't quite grasp what you mean by that, MalawianPro. Do you mean that tankraised fish don't get exposed to the rigors of travel, and as such should look better than wildcaught, or that people should prefer tankraised over wild because it save the fish the rough trip, or that wildcaught fish would look even better if they didn't have a rough trip before we saw them? Yes, shev, I had a feeling that there were a bunch of breeders around here who could make a breeding thread interesting. I'm sure we've only heard from a few so far.

05-30-2005, 06:27 PM	#17
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,982	I think its more about not letting nature work. There really isn't survival of the fittest in fishfarms. In nature, not every fish gets to breed and there is much less inbreeding than on farms who mass produce fish for sale. For example, some species of cories don't have the large dorsal fin once they are bred in a tank. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

05-30-2005, 07:38 PM	#18
ALFA WOLF Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 414	Dont they switch fish from diffrent tankes to another tank to make room for breeding fish.

11-08-2005, 08:19 PM	#19
fishboy Custom User Title Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 17 Posts: 1,656	I'm going to start breeding! I'm skipping livebearers and goning straight for elementary egg layers. When I grow up and get a good job(hopefully) I want to breed large and small oddballs and natives __________________ It is only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

11-08-2005, 08:34 PM	#20
Lara not the tomb raiding type Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 30 Posts: 264	I only know how to accidentally breed fish, lol

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