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Old 12-14-2006, 06:18 PM   #1
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jUST WONDERING WHICH FISH AND INVERTS THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SUCCESFULLY BREED? I HEARD YOU CAN VARIOUS SNAILS, AND SALLY LIGHT FOOTS, AND SO ON BUT WHAT ELSE? i HAVE ALOT OF EQUIPMENT FROM AN 1800 GALLON SALTWATER TANK THAT I DISMANTLED AND I WANT TO PUT IT TO GOOD USE, SEE IF I CAN SUCCESFULLY BREED SO FISH AND INVERTS. ANY HELP WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED, THANKS.
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Old 12-27-2006, 02:26 PM   #2
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Well that's quite a really hard question. It's possible to breed anything if you know the trigger and to contour some odd or even strange steps in larval rearing.
Well it's possible to breed Lysmata wurdemanni, Lysmata debelius (not that easy), Lysmata amboinensis (very tricky, very difficult this one), Lysmata seticaudata, Stenopus Hispidus (not that easy), Thor Amboinensis (really haven't been described yet), i've done some research with rhynchocinetes uritai (these are all ornamental shrimps and lobsters like). I've read a paper yesterday that describes first larval stages of Alpheus sp (pistol shrimp)
Then we have snails, like strombus sp that companys like ORA have been doing. Some brittle star, starfish and some bristle worm are others not so well documented.
Then you would have corals, but people do not breed them just frag them which it's controverse because you never expand the genetic diversity which could make in a future the corals to colapse. Finally you could do some nudibranch like berghias for example.
Fishes are what is most common to ask and to do at first. Orchid dottyback, Clowns, blennies, neon gobys. French angels are a very big case of sucess but very supported in wild plancton (not a very good method to do constantly).
If you are interested in any particular i hope i can help you, but it's for you now to see what's best to do, managing your time and dedication.

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Old 12-27-2006, 02:47 PM   #3
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Well that's quite a really hard question. It's possible to breed anything if you know the trigger and to contour some odd or even strange steps in larval rearing.
Well it's possible to breed Lysmata wurdemanni, Lysmata debelius (not that easy), Lysmata amboinensis (very tricky, very difficult this one), Lysmata seticaudata, Stenopus Hispidus (not that easy), Thor Amboinensis (really haven't been described yet), i've done some research with rhynchocinetes uritai (these are all ornamental shrimps and lobsters like). I've read a paper yesterday that describes first larval stages of Alpheus sp (pistol shrimp)
Then we have snails, like strombus sp that companys like ORA have been doing. Some brittle star, starfish and some bristle worm are others not so well documented.
Then you would have corals, but people do not breed them just frag them which it's controverse because you never expand the genetic diversity which could make in a future the corals to colapse. Finally you could do some nudibranch like berghias for example.
Fishes are what is most common to ask and to do at first. Orchid dottyback, Clowns, blennies, neon gobys. French angels are a very big case of sucess but very supported in wild plancton (not a very good method to do constantly).
If you are interested in any particular i hope i can help you, but it's for you now to see what's best to do, managing your time and dedication.

Sincerely

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Snails are easy to breed in captivity since theyre like baby factories. Ive never heard of sally lightfoots breeding in captive. But like Antonio said, you just got to know how to do it.

EDIT: Asternia stars and some other starts also easily breed
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:03 PM   #4
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If your doing fresh water live bearers and apple snails are great. Apple snails have the most variation of color if your interested in snails. physids are a type of snail that is hermaphroditic so they can breed even without a mate. when breeding live bearers all you have to do is put males with females and wait for fry.

You said you dismantled the tank will you remake it saltwater?

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Old 12-27-2006, 03:21 PM   #5
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All the snails I have in my 75 have reproduced. DOnt know how or why as I wasn't trying to breed them. I have trocheus, astrea, cerith, and nassarius snails. I have also bred peppermints. Dont think my hermits have but I dont remember how many I put in the tank to start. SOme people are just lucky.
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:44 PM   #6
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hey thanks for the replies! yea i have a bunch of vats two 300 gallon vats that i used for the water changes on the 1800 gallo saltwater fish only tank. i also have tons of pumps and a commercial uv sterilizer, jacussi carbon filters and pleated cartridge filters, Mtc protien skimmers like 4 huge ones, Two 6 foot acrylic towere for bio balls, two huge sumps, So many bio balls that i dont know what to do with, 3 different compressors for water chilling ... alot more equipment like metal halide fixtures and stuff like that, i just want to put a system together like in my garage a try to breed what i can... been doing some research and im thinking i can really get into it. i know it will take a long time and patience to learn but im going to go for it really soon. Antonio gomes im portuguese too! i was born here but my parents grew up in portugal in a village called Macos, next to chaves up north! thanks for the info guys anymore would help.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:14 PM   #7
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You know you wont be needing halides to breed inverts. I would suggest selling them rather than put em on a snail breeding tank or throw em in your garage
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:23 AM   #8
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Yeah it's very equipment only have to get it together. For a better optimization of everything i would suggest that you do a plan and for example show it here, for us to discuss it trying to make it better. One thing that i always get learning is that one person cannot cover every aspect, no matter how experienced they are. There are always something that will seem to have room for improvements! But that's only a suggestion. (I have to agree with harif87 the halide lamps are not a vital or essential part for breeding nothing except corals, and even those i got some ideas. Here in Portugal as well as in most European countries, electricity is very expensive to run let's say 500 Watt or even 250 Watt lamp system, so it's always good to have alternatives.
I don't know if i'm going way off topic but is there any information available about Asternia stars breeding ? and snails breeding, i'm gathering information about most bost breeding procedures that people are using, but different sites, different forums and the most popular things that always show up are the clown fish, tryin seahorses, peppermints etc... so if anyone can help gathering small info about it...i would be glad (i will try to help in any way)

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Old 12-28-2006, 11:24 AM   #9
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Well for snails and asternia stars i guarantee that you wont have a problem. As far as procedures go i dont think theyre discussed because they do it on their own...alot, especially aster's. Probably why you wont find any info on how to breed em since no effort is required.
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lol, the only invert ive "bred" are Cerith snails. All you have to do is get big enough specimens and turn the lights of for a day or two. I had my lights off for a week (not my fault...) and when I got back there were hundreds.
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Old 12-28-2006, 01:25 PM   #11
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Hello,

Thanks to all. Well i'm a lucky guy so i've got acess to a lot of ceriths here maybe i'll try to do some research about it and then get it posted to you later on.

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I have a huge breeding coloney of ceriths. Very easy, no trigger that I know of, I have a constant supply of little ones.


I've also bred Banggai cardinalfish, very cool fish... bred a few days after the male spit the batch of little ones out... had to seperate the male and feed him high protien foods for a few weeks between several successive batches because he started eating the eggs.
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