ram mouth fighting used to help sex?

dmarcus · 07-30-2006, 05:16 PM

hey i have a male bolvian ram and a female bolivian ram that i am sure of hte sexes, (picked out by breeder and gauranteed) I recently bought a german gold ram juvenile who is beginning to get bigger and hes starting to mouth wrestle or fight with the female bolivian ram. I was led to believe that mouth fighting was a normal behavior for rams, (its not violent just assertive and usually only a couple of seconds long) anyway this little gold ram could be either sex but

does anyone know if mouth fighting occurs between males and females, males and males, or just two females. I would like to be able to know how to sex the gold ram cause i know the bolivians. Thanks

Durbkat · 07-30-2006, 08:35 PM

I'm not sure about rams but I know that angels do that to test each other before they mate. Maybe thats what they are doing.

xerxeswasachump · 07-31-2006, 10:38 PM

Maybe your golden ram is trying to steal your manram's lady. Since one of my golden rams has died, the remaining female golden ram has fights with the female bolivian ram all the time. Meanwhile, my manram just cowers underneath a piece of bark. He doesn't like violence.

**Cichlid Man** · 08-01-2006, 06:53 AM

Male and female cichlids will fight together just as two males or two females would. So just because two fish look the same and are both at each others throats, don't asume that they're both of the same sex.

dmarcus · 08-02-2006, 05:45 PM

thanks cichlid man thats what i wanted to know, i guess ill just wait until i get another gold ram and they spawn to see whos who.

07-30-2006, 05:16 PM	#1
dmarcus Plant crazy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 24 Posts: 75	ram mouth fighting used to help sex? hey i have a male bolvian ram and a female bolivian ram that i am sure of hte sexes, (picked out by breeder and gauranteed) I recently bought a german gold ram juvenile who is beginning to get bigger and hes starting to mouth wrestle or fight with the female bolivian ram. I was led to believe that mouth fighting was a normal behavior for rams, (its not violent just assertive and usually only a couple of seconds long) anyway this little gold ram could be either sex but does anyone know if mouth fighting occurs between males and females, males and males, or just two females. I would like to be able to know how to sex the gold ram cause i know the bolivians. Thanks __________________ Plant fool 5 gallon Bowl 1 paradise fish 10 gallon 2 australian rainbow fish, 1 veilltailed blue ram 29 gallon heavily planted, 1 clown pleco, 2 bolivian rams, 7 amano shrimp, 1 bamboo shrimp, 3 yoyo loaches, 6 featherfin rainbow fish, 2 dwarf neon flame gouramis

07-31-2006, 10:38 PM	#3
xerxeswasachump no snakes alive... Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ Age: 24 Posts: 237	Maybe your golden ram is trying to steal your manram's lady. Since one of my golden rams has died, the remaining female golden ram has fights with the female bolivian ram all the time. Meanwhile, my manram just cowers underneath a piece of bark. He doesn't like violence. __________________ 46 Gallon Planted Tank: 1 bolivian ram, 1 angelfish, 12 glo-lite tetras, 2 colomesus asellus, 8 japonica shrimp

08-01-2006, 06:53 AM	#4
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	Male and female cichlids will fight together just as two males or two females would. So just because two fish look the same and are both at each others throats, don't asume that they're both of the same sex. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

08-02-2006, 05:45 PM	#5
dmarcus Plant crazy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Jersey Age: 24 Posts: 75	thanks cichlid man thats what i wanted to know, i guess ill just wait until i get another gold ram and they spawn to see whos who. __________________ Plant fool 5 gallon Bowl 1 paradise fish 10 gallon 2 australian rainbow fish, 1 veilltailed blue ram 29 gallon heavily planted, 1 clown pleco, 2 bolivian rams, 7 amano shrimp, 1 bamboo shrimp, 3 yoyo loaches, 6 featherfin rainbow fish, 2 dwarf neon flame gouramis

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07-30-2006, 08:35 PM	#2
Durbkat It's the Evil Monkey!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kentucky Age: 17 Posts: 1,112	I'm not sure about rams but I know that angels do that to test each other before they mate. Maybe thats what they are doing.

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