New Fish

fish4fish · 02-23-2008, 08:31 PM

Thanks to NathanBarry, Clerk, emc7, Gourami_Swami, fishbguy and Karazy(if he's not banned) for helping me pick my fish (JD and Convict)

Now, what i need help with is; Sexing the Jack Dempsey (his name is JD after JD in Scrubs

) I think JD is a female because of his/her less pointed fins and the blue on his/her Gill plate, I have doubt because of the color on his/her body.

And heres the Convict I picked out (I couldn't resist getting a female because of her colors, bad choice?)

Gourami Swami · 02-23-2008, 09:17 PM

Nice fish! The convict really is a beauty! For the JD im going to go ahead and make my educated guess... male. Females really have lots of color on the gill plates. Of course, it is not 100% guarunteed, but your fish looks more like a male to me.

Cichlidsrule · 02-23-2008, 09:42 PM

That may possibly be the most gorgeous Dempsey I've ever seen. I love the blue sheen on the spots combined with the yellow glow. The convict is very beautiful as well

Clerk · 02-23-2008, 10:23 PM

I would also lean towards saying the JD is male.

fish4fish · 02-24-2008, 06:59 AM

Ok thanks guys...Would you think another female convict is out of the question?

Gourami Swami · 02-24-2008, 08:43 AM

In a 55? Nah, go ahead and add one

BTW, heres a similar sized female dempsey to show the gill speckles.

They actually multiplied as she grew and there are many more now.

fishbguy · 02-24-2008, 08:49 AM

Nice JD...we have some jd's at my work about that size....they aren't the most beautiful fish atm...yours is amazing!

Love the con too.

fish4fish · 02-24-2008, 09:53 AM

Thanks guys, I was just worried because i read about Hybrid JD x Convict so i didn't really want it to be an issue in the tank. But if its ok then i'll add a female in about a week.

nathanbarry · 02-24-2008, 10:03 AM

Thats cool...love the JD which i agree is a male. Go ahead and have another convict, i have a female convict in with malawi cichlids.

GoodMike · 02-24-2008, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathanbarry

Thats cool...love the JD which i agree is a male. Go ahead and have another convict, i have a female convict in with malawi cichlids.

just because you do things that you shouldnt, doesnt mean that you should preach it to others. long term your convict/malawian mix wont work. IMO

Gourami Swami · 02-24-2008, 04:27 PM

^ normally im on your side mikey, but I have to disagree. Depending on tank size and individual species, having a convict in with malawians is totally possible. And having 2 female cons and a JD in a 55g certainly isnt overstocked.

GoodMike · 02-24-2008, 05:18 PM

never said it was over stocked. but mixing species from different lakes generally is not a good idea, especially when behavior differs, feeding differs, etc.
there are social hierarchies with in fish tanks, if all the fish behave in a similar manner, you have less aggression problems, and less death. if not, you have problems. cons play a different game than most your malawians. dont take my word for it, try it

fish4fish · 02-24-2008, 06:00 PM

I think goodmike is talking about nathanbarry, and not the jackdempsey but i get what he is saying
uhmm another problem...2 days now and the jack isn't eating...
It has a cave on one side of the tank but does venture out to the others...

I read around that having shoals of fish may make the hiders more active because they see it's safe out. So i moved in 2 giant danios and am planning on getting 4 more. And then i just thought that some Barbs might look nice too.
Does having Shoals really help with the hiding? And just wait out JD's eating problem?

02-23-2008, 08:31 PM	#1
fish4fish More Fish In the Sea Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 16 Posts: 38	New Fish Thanks to NathanBarry, Clerk, emc7, Gourami_Swami, fishbguy and Karazy(if he's not banned) for helping me pick my fish (JD and Convict) Now, what i need help with is; Sexing the Jack Dempsey (his name is JD after JD in Scrubs ) I think JD is a female because of his/her less pointed fins and the blue on his/her Gill plate, I have doubt because of the color on his/her body. And heres the Convict I picked out (I couldn't resist getting a female because of her colors, bad choice?) __________________ Moderate-Minimally Planted Tanks: 55 Gallon - Jack Dempsey and a Female Convict - - 30 Gallon - Ryukin and Calico Oranda - - 30 Gallon - One Angelfish and six Black Skirt tetras. - - 10 Gallon - HM Betta and 5 Neon Tetras. - -

02-23-2008, 09:17 PM	#2
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,106	Nice fish! The convict really is a beauty! For the JD im going to go ahead and make my educated guess... male. Females really have lots of color on the gill plates. Of course, it is not 100% guarunteed, but your fish looks more like a male to me. __________________

02-23-2008, 10:23 PM	#4
Clerk Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 466	I would also lean towards saying the JD is male. __________________ Four Tanks 55 Gallon - Planted Display Tank 50 Gallon Community 20 Gallon - High-Light Planted Breeder 29 Gallon - Newt

02-24-2008, 06:59 AM	#5
fish4fish More Fish In the Sea Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 16 Posts: 38	Ok thanks guys...Would you think another female convict is out of the question? __________________ Moderate-Minimally Planted Tanks: 55 Gallon - Jack Dempsey and a Female Convict - - 30 Gallon - Ryukin and Calico Oranda - - 30 Gallon - One Angelfish and six Black Skirt tetras. - - 10 Gallon - HM Betta and 5 Neon Tetras. - -

02-24-2008, 08:43 AM	#6
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,106	In a 55? Nah, go ahead and add one BTW, heres a similar sized female dempsey to show the gill speckles. They actually multiplied as she grew and there are many more now. __________________

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02-24-2008, 08:49 AM	#7
fishbguy I'm watching you Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: michigan Age: 17 Posts: 1,890	Nice JD...we have some jd's at my work about that size....they aren't the most beautiful fish atm...yours is amazing! Love the con too. __________________ I think about you in the summertime And all the good times we had, baby It’s been a few years and I can’t deny The thought of you still makes me crazy I think about you in the summertime Summertime - New Kids On The Block

02-24-2008, 09:53 AM	#8
fish4fish More Fish In the Sea Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 16 Posts: 38	Thanks guys, I was just worried because i read about Hybrid JD x Convict so i didn't really want it to be an issue in the tank. But if its ok then i'll add a female in about a week. __________________ Moderate-Minimally Planted Tanks: 55 Gallon - Jack Dempsey and a Female Convict - - 30 Gallon - Ryukin and Calico Oranda - - 30 Gallon - One Angelfish and six Black Skirt tetras. - - 10 Gallon - HM Betta and 5 Neon Tetras. - -

02-24-2008, 10:03 AM	#9
nathanbarry -~Fish Watcher~- Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Midlands, England Posts: 355	Thats cool...love the JD which i agree is a male. Go ahead and have another convict, i have a female convict in with malawi cichlids. __________________ 10 GALLON 2 Orange Gourami's (2") 2 Zebra Danios (1.5") 1 Chinese Algae Eater (2.5") 1 Khuli Loach (2") 1 Albino Corydoras (1") 2 Mickey-Mouse Platies (1.5") 55 GALLON 4 Parrot Cichlids (4"-7") 3 Clown Loaches (3") 1 Common Pleco (4") 1 Pictus Catfish (6") 55 GALLON 12 Malawi Mbuna Cichlids (1"-5") 1 Convict Cichlid (2") 1 Common Pleco (3.5")

02-24-2008, 04:27 PM	#11
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,106	^ normally im on your side mikey, but I have to disagree. Depending on tank size and individual species, having a convict in with malawians is totally possible. And having 2 female cons and a JD in a 55g certainly isnt overstocked. __________________

02-24-2008, 05:18 PM	#12
GoodMike Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Age: 22 Posts: 547	never said it was over stocked. but mixing species from different lakes generally is not a good idea, especially when behavior differs, feeding differs, etc. there are social hierarchies with in fish tanks, if all the fish behave in a similar manner, you have less aggression problems, and less death. if not, you have problems. cons play a different game than most your malawians. dont take my word for it, try it

02-24-2008, 06:00 PM	#13
fish4fish More Fish In the Sea Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 16 Posts: 38	I think goodmike is talking about nathanbarry, and not the jackdempsey but i get what he is saying uhmm another problem...2 days now and the jack isn't eating... It has a cave on one side of the tank but does venture out to the others... I read around that having shoals of fish may make the hiders more active because they see it's safe out. So i moved in 2 giant danios and am planning on getting 4 more. And then i just thought that some Barbs might look nice too. Does having Shoals really help with the hiding? And just wait out JD's eating problem? __________________ Moderate-Minimally Planted Tanks: 55 Gallon - Jack Dempsey and a Female Convict - - 30 Gallon - Ryukin and Calico Oranda - - 30 Gallon - One Angelfish and six Black Skirt tetras. - - 10 Gallon - HM Betta and 5 Neon Tetras. - - Last edited by fish4fish; 02-24-2008 at 07:16 PM.

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