cichlid bottom feeder

aidas_tank_keep · 07-05-2008, 03:03 PM

m. johannii
n. venustus
Pseudotropheus Zebra
Melanochromis Auratus
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...891&pcatid=891
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...839&pcatid=839
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...843&pcatid=843

i want a good bottom feeder....i got a couple plecs

sneasle · 07-05-2008, 03:14 PM

Your links are bad.

Are you asking for suggestions, or what?

aidas_tank_keep · 07-05-2008, 03:31 PM

yep
just want to know whats gonna be a good one

aidas_tank_keep · 07-05-2008, 03:34 PM

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...891&pcatid=891
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...839&pcatid=839
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...843&pcatid=843

BV77 · 07-05-2008, 04:06 PM

well for one, the yellow lab won't work with the johanni..melanochromis get too mean for yellow labs.

**Scuba Kid** · 07-05-2008, 04:44 PM

I have no suggestions as to which cichlids are compatible as I don't keep Africans, but what size tank is this?

Synodontis cats make good "bottom feeders" for African tanks.

aidas_tank_keep · 07-05-2008, 06:36 PM

50gal tank

**lohachata** · 07-05-2008, 06:54 PM

man!!!! i don't think i even wanna touch this one.
except that africans aren't bottom feeders..they are predatory aufuchs feeders..

**Scuba Kid** · 07-05-2008, 07:03 PM

I don't think he meant that he's looking for an African cichlid as a bottom feeder...but a bottom feeder that can be kept with Africans.

Obsidian · 07-05-2008, 07:51 PM

For your reading pleasure:

"i want a good bottom feeder....i got a couple plecs"

For your viewing pleasure:
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...891&pcatid=891
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...839&pcatid=839
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...843&pcatid=843

None of which are bottom feeders.

joe kool · 07-06-2008, 06:01 AM

in the aquarium environment cichlids tend to be opportunistic feeders and will eat where ever the food is. If you feed a fast sinking food and they don't get to it before it hits bottom .. they'll eat it off the bottom. there are a few bottom grazers but they are more herbivores that are used to eating algae off rocks off the bottoms of their lake homes. In a aquarium most become omnivorous or straight carnivore depending on the offered food which is very hard on their system and many end up with bloat or gout or some other medical issues due to improper diet.

if you are looking for bottom feeders that can be kept with cichlids then the suggestion of synodontis cats is a good one. I like the Synodontis petricola and you want to keep them in groups of 5 or so. with your smallish tank you might consider just getting a couple yo yo loaches or maybe a syno that doesn't mind being alone like the ocellifer or eupterus.

Coler · 07-07-2008, 01:51 PM

I reccomend synodontis multipunctatus, either 1 or 3, 1 in your case, unless you in fact have plecos in which case you don't want any more cats than what you have, irrespective of type.

joe kool · 07-07-2008, 02:39 PM

True Multi's are going to get too big for a 50 gal. Depending on the type of pleco, meaning as long as it's not the common type pleco, meaning if he has a plec that stay's under 6 or 7" like a brushy nose of gold nugget type, he'll be fine having a few petricola or one of the other varieties.

Coler · 07-11-2008, 06:06 AM

Synodontis Multipunctatus ? Its a six inch fish. I would consider that fine for 50 Gallons vis-a-vis size, subject to other inhabitants. http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog...?species_id=95

07-05-2008, 03:03 PM	#1
aidas_tank_keep Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 21 Posts: 73	cichlid bottom feeder m. johannii n. venustus Pseudotropheus Zebra Melanochromis Auratus http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...891&pcatid=891 http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...839&pcatid=839 http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...843&pcatid=843 i want a good bottom feeder....i got a couple plecs __________________ 55GL tank 6 Zebra Danos, 3 Plattys, 1 6inch Pleco 10GL tank 2 goldfish-soon to come a 30gal

07-05-2008, 03:31 PM	#3
aidas_tank_keep Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 21 Posts: 73	yep just want to know whats gonna be a good one __________________ 55GL tank 6 Zebra Danos, 3 Plattys, 1 6inch Pleco 10GL tank 2 goldfish-soon to come a 30gal

07-05-2008, 03:34 PM	#4
aidas_tank_keep Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 21 Posts: 73	http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...891&pcatid=891 http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...839&pcatid=839 http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...843&pcatid=843 __________________ 55GL tank 6 Zebra Danos, 3 Plattys, 1 6inch Pleco 10GL tank 2 goldfish-soon to come a 30gal

07-05-2008, 04:44 PM	#6
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,160	I have no suggestions as to which cichlids are compatible as I don't keep Africans, but what size tank is this? Synodontis cats make good "bottom feeders" for African tanks. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

07-05-2008, 06:36 PM	#7
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07-05-2008, 03:14 PM	#2
sneasle Airplane Nut Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auburn, AL Age: 21 Posts: 181	Your links are bad. Are you asking for suggestions, or what?

07-05-2008, 04:06 PM	#5
BV77 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alaska Posts: 473	well for one, the yellow lab won't work with the johanni..melanochromis get too mean for yellow labs.

07-05-2008, 06:54 PM	#8
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 507	man!!!! i don't think i even wanna touch this one. except that africans aren't bottom feeders..they are predatory aufuchs feeders.. __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-05-2008, 07:03 PM	#9
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,160	I don't think he meant that he's looking for an African cichlid as a bottom feeder...but a bottom feeder that can be kept with Africans. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

07-05-2008, 07:51 PM	#10
Obsidian Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 997	For your reading pleasure: "i want a good bottom feeder....i got a couple plecs" For your viewing pleasure: http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...891&pcatid=891 http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...839&pcatid=839 http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...843&pcatid=843 None of which are bottom feeders. __________________ Obsidian 20 gallon 1 Dwarf Gourami; 6 Cherry Barbs 4F 2M; 8 Black Neon Tetras; 3 Peppered Cory's; 1 Bristlenose Pleco 10 gallon 5 Zebra Danios 5.5 gallon Betta 100 gallon 8 giant danios; 4 Rosy Barbs, 2 German Blue Rams, 5 Julie Cory cats, 2 Burmese Loaches

07-06-2008, 06:01 AM	#11
joe kool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 572	in the aquarium environment cichlids tend to be opportunistic feeders and will eat where ever the food is. If you feed a fast sinking food and they don't get to it before it hits bottom .. they'll eat it off the bottom. there are a few bottom grazers but they are more herbivores that are used to eating algae off rocks off the bottoms of their lake homes. In a aquarium most become omnivorous or straight carnivore depending on the offered food which is very hard on their system and many end up with bloat or gout or some other medical issues due to improper diet. if you are looking for bottom feeders that can be kept with cichlids then the suggestion of synodontis cats is a good one. I like the Synodontis petricola and you want to keep them in groups of 5 or so. with your smallish tank you might consider just getting a couple yo yo loaches or maybe a syno that doesn't mind being alone like the ocellifer or eupterus. __________________ A conglomeration of cichlids from all over living happily in my "melting pot" of tanks. Breeding: currently nothing ... I'm sequestered in South Korea, "Osan" to be exact 2 days till I'm back in the states!!!! Florida to be exact, those Floridians have no idea what they're in for!! current Fry: see above tanks: 100, 55, 46 BF, 26 BF, 20L, 5 fry tank 20L planted with CRS is the only thing up (easy for the wife to care for in my stead)

07-07-2008, 01:51 PM	#12
Coler Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 30 Posts: 7	I reccomend synodontis multipunctatus, either 1 or 3, 1 in your case, unless you in fact have plecos in which case you don't want any more cats than what you have, irrespective of type.

07-07-2008, 02:39 PM	#13
joe kool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 572	True Multi's are going to get too big for a 50 gal. Depending on the type of pleco, meaning as long as it's not the common type pleco, meaning if he has a plec that stay's under 6 or 7" like a brushy nose of gold nugget type, he'll be fine having a few petricola or one of the other varieties. __________________ A conglomeration of cichlids from all over living happily in my "melting pot" of tanks. Breeding: currently nothing ... I'm sequestered in South Korea, "Osan" to be exact 2 days till I'm back in the states!!!! Florida to be exact, those Floridians have no idea what they're in for!! current Fry: see above tanks: 100, 55, 46 BF, 26 BF, 20L, 5 fry tank 20L planted with CRS is the only thing up (easy for the wife to care for in my stead)

07-11-2008, 06:06 AM	#14
Coler Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 30 Posts: 7	Synodontis Multipunctatus ? Its a six inch fish. I would consider that fine for 50 Gallons vis-a-vis size, subject to other inhabitants. http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog...?species_id=95

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