Sexing Blue Rams (pic inside)

bsmith · 08-14-2005, 10:37 PM

here is one pic now, i think it is a male, the other doesnt have the black spot or as much color, i dont know if that is because it is a female or this is the dominant male, i'll get another pic in a minute..

bsmith · 08-14-2005, 10:47 PM

pic with both..

Ownager2004 · 08-14-2005, 10:47 PM

If i remember correctly the best way to sex rams is by looking at their dorsal fin. If the dorsal fins are noticeably different then there is a good chance that you have a male and a female.

bsmith · 08-14-2005, 10:51 PM

seems like it in that pic, one looks longer than the other.. but when i just looked in the tank they look to be the same ! they chase a little, but nothing well noticing, they seem to always be together and always moving around but not violent.

Damon · 08-14-2005, 10:53 PM

Hard to tell from the blurry pics, but I would say you have 2 males.

awesome kid · 08-15-2005, 10:13 AM

i think that in the second pic that there is 1 male 1 female (male on bottom)

Lisachromis · 08-15-2005, 10:12 PM

I think it's two males myself. A female will often have a lot of blue reflective spots on the scales in the dark blotch. Males will have only a few.

Yankee boy · 08-16-2005, 05:47 PM

I believe i ts 2 males myself.

euRasian32 · 08-16-2005, 06:31 PM

I got this from wetwebmedia.com

SEXING RAMS
How can I determine sex? I have one but want to get a mate.
< Rams are different from many other dwarf cichlids in that they are not sexually dimorphic like the Apistos and Nannacaras. I discovered this little technique years ago that seems very reliable.
First of all males are slightly larger than the females. The forehead is a little broader on the males too. Females that are mature may have a rosy pink area on their belly. Males fins are slightly longer than the females.
Take a very close look at the black spot located on the side of the fish with a flashlight. On most males they have numerous blue scales on the side of the fish except over the black spot. Females on the other hand have larger more pronounced scales in and around this black spot. Sometimes they are slightly different colors too.
Check out any good dwarf cichlid book at the LFS that shows a breeding pair of rams and you to will soon see the difference. Sometimes all the fish in the tank are the same sex. If you rams were imported from Asia then they may have artificially enhanced longer fins too. This is one of my favorite all time fish. Good luck.-Chuck>

Damon · 08-16-2005, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by euRasian32

I got this from wetwebmedia.com

SEXING RAMS
How can I determine sex? I have one but want to get a mate.
< Rams are different from many other dwarf cichlids in that they are not sexually dimorphic like the Apistos and Nannacaras. I discovered this little technique years ago that seems very reliable.
First of all males are slightly larger than the females. The forehead is a little broader on the males too. Females that are mature may have a rosy pink area on their belly. Males fins are slightly longer than the females.
Take a very close look at the black spot located on the side of the fish with a flashlight. On most males they have numerous blue scales on the side of the fish except over the black spot. Females on the other hand have larger more pronounced scales in and around this black spot. Sometimes they are slightly different colors too.
Check out any good dwarf cichlid book at the LFS that shows a breeding pair of rams and you to will soon see the difference. Sometimes all the fish in the tank are the same sex. If you rams were imported from Asia then they may have artificially enhanced longer fins too. This is one of my favorite all time fish. Good luck.-Chuck>

Sounds like Lisa's "voice" is echoing! lol

Lisachromis · 08-17-2005, 09:36 PM

Lol!

cucci67 · 08-18-2005, 08:07 AM

I once had a male blue ram. Its dorsal fin was pointed way up in the back (like an nch high point).

emc7 · 08-20-2005, 11:45 PM

I was told the second ray of the dorsal is elongated in males. Looks like a pair to me, but I'm not very good at it.

Sin · 08-23-2005, 07:17 PM

after a couple months if they arnt over breed lines the dorsal spike should very apparent on a male. a female wont have a high spike at all. sometimes this isnt even possable because they get breed for color and the spike is forgotten. then end up looking the same.

Fish Friend · 09-10-2005, 02:58 PM

i think you have 2 male rams, they look good by the way

08-14-2005, 10:37 PM	#1
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	Sexing Blue Rams (pic inside) here is one pic now, i think it is a male, the other doesnt have the black spot or as much color, i dont know if that is because it is a female or this is the dominant male, i'll get another pic in a minute.. __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000

08-14-2005, 10:47 PM	#2
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	pic with both.. __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000

08-14-2005, 10:51 PM	#4
bsmith fish n00b Join Date: May 2005 Age: 26 Posts: 406	seems like it in that pic, one looks longer than the other.. but when i just looked in the tank they look to be the same ! they chase a little, but nothing well noticing, they seem to always be together and always moving around but not violent. __________________ * 40 Gallon BR Tank * 2 Blue Ram 2 AngelFish (gold & marble) 4 Green Cory 3 Neon Tetra 1 Pleco 4 ghost shrimp 1 Golden Apple Snail * 10 Gallon Tank * 2 juvi Albino Cory Cats 4 Neon Tetras http://community.webshots.com/user/bsmith000

08-14-2005, 10:53 PM	#5
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,976	Hard to tell from the blurry pics, but I would say you have 2 males. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

08-15-2005, 10:13 AM	#6
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08-14-2005, 10:47 PM	#3
Ownager2004 L33t n00b Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Athens, Ohio Age: 25 Posts: 466	If i remember correctly the best way to sex rams is by looking at their dorsal fin. If the dorsal fins are noticeably different then there is a good chance that you have a male and a female.

08-15-2005, 10:12 PM	#7
Lisachromis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 280	I think it's two males myself. A female will often have a lot of blue reflective spots on the scales in the dark blotch. Males will have only a few. __________________ Lisa's Lair Cichlid Room Companion

08-16-2005, 05:47 PM	#8
Yankee boy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Navarre, FL Age: 19 Posts: 103	I believe i ts 2 males myself.

08-16-2005, 06:31 PM	#9
euRasian32 Why So Serious? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 771	I got this from wetwebmedia.com SEXING RAMS How can I determine sex? I have one but want to get a mate. < Rams are different from many other dwarf cichlids in that they are not sexually dimorphic like the Apistos and Nannacaras. I discovered this little technique years ago that seems very reliable. First of all males are slightly larger than the females. The forehead is a little broader on the males too. Females that are mature may have a rosy pink area on their belly. Males fins are slightly longer than the females. Take a very close look at the black spot located on the side of the fish with a flashlight. On most males they have numerous blue scales on the side of the fish except over the black spot. Females on the other hand have larger more pronounced scales in and around this black spot. Sometimes they are slightly different colors too. Check out any good dwarf cichlid book at the LFS that shows a breeding pair of rams and you to will soon see the difference. Sometimes all the fish in the tank are the same sex. If you rams were imported from Asia then they may have artificially enhanced longer fins too. This is one of my favorite all time fish. Good luck.-Chuck> __________________ “Corporations pay people just enough money so they won’t quit. People work just enough so they don’t get fired. What's that about?” – Christopher Walken, Pool Hall Junkies

08-17-2005, 09:36 PM	#11
Lisachromis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 280	Lol! __________________ Lisa's Lair Cichlid Room Companion

08-18-2005, 08:07 AM	#12
cucci67 No Longer Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 481	I once had a male blue ram. Its dorsal fin was pointed way up in the back (like an nch high point).

08-20-2005, 11:45 PM	#13
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,621	I was told the second ray of the dorsal is elongated in males. Looks like a pair to me, but I'm not very good at it.

08-23-2005, 07:17 PM	#14
Sin Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Hampshire Age: 31 Posts: 14	after a couple months if they arnt over breed lines the dorsal spike should very apparent on a male. a female wont have a high spike at all. sometimes this isnt even possable because they get breed for color and the spike is forgotten. then end up looking the same.

09-10-2005, 02:58 PM	#15
Fish Friend Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 234	i think you have 2 male rams, they look good by the way __________________ "Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it." ================================================== 32g:Freshwater Community 10g: Rearing tank soon to be upgraded to a 15g and turned into a nano setup!! -Parky

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