3o gallon tank

bread · 04-23-2006, 05:51 PM

Hi, I have a 30 gallon tank (30x12x19" i think) and i am really interested in Jewel Cichlids. I don't have any fish in it yet, but ideally i would like to have a jewel pair, a kissing gourami,and a black ghost knifefish. Are all these fish compatable?Also could someone who has jewels tell me how they found a pair? Thank you so much.

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 06:09 PM

Are u talking about putting all of them in a 30 gallon.

bread · 04-23-2006, 06:10 PM

Also can you give me some advice on the tank setup? Thanks.

bread · 04-23-2006, 06:10 PM

yes, however i also have a 10 gallon with a betta in it.

AshleytheGreat · 04-23-2006, 06:20 PM

Black ghost knifefish get pretty big and will need a lot bigger then a 30 Gal tank to thrive.

EDIT: And if you want a jewel PAIR as in to breed them they might bully the gourami.

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 06:25 PM

AshleyTheGreat is right a Black GhostKnife fish gets way to big for a 30 gallon and I have known Jewel Cichlids to be pretty agressive. If I were u I would re-think my tank setup.

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 06:26 PM

If u really want a pair of Jewel cichlids then I guess u could get them but I woudn't put anything else in there.

bread · 04-23-2006, 06:32 PM

Now that i know the knifefish won't work, will there be enough room for the gourami and the jewels? What if i get the gourami first and let it get bigger and then add the jewels?

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 06:34 PM

Well if u buy young jewel cichlids and let them grow up with the gourmai itmight work.

bread · 04-23-2006, 06:50 PM

well, eventually i would like the jewels to breed. I have heard you can get a few young jewels and let them pair off and return all but the pair back to the store. Would that work?

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 07:10 PM

Yeah I would think so.

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 07:11 PM

Instead of going through all this trouble with the Jewels is there any other kin of fish that u would like.

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 07:11 PM

Do u like Rams or kribs.

bread · 04-23-2006, 07:19 PM

The kribs seem nice but i know nothing about them.

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 07:30 PM

The Kribs r pretty easy to take care of they r peaceful. The Kribs can take pretty much any water conditions they get up to around 4 inches not as big as the jewels they like temps. from 72-82°F.

FishCrazy1234 · 04-23-2006, 07:31 PM

R u still interested in the gourmai or do u want something different.

AshleytheGreat · 04-23-2006, 07:34 PM

You can get a pair or trio of yellow labs. They are cuties and Im sure your LFS would eat the babies up if you sold them.

bread · 04-23-2006, 07:46 PM

are the yellow labs easy to breed? And yes i for sure want a kissing gourami.

emc7 · 04-23-2006, 11:57 PM

Get Dwarf jewels--Hemichromis christatus, lifililii? or Thomasi. The big ones like bimaculatus are too agressive for that size tank. The small ones are great, intense red with blue spangles. I got all my pairs by raising fry and letting the fish choose. Jewel cichlids are biparental egg layers so they agressively defend their spawn. I really think they would beat up a gourami. I don't know about the ghost knife, he might be okay is he has his own area to hid in. Most people who breed jewels have a species tank. But I think they'd do fine in a community until they pair off. I don't think H. cristatus are any bigger or more difficult or more aggressive than krbs.

Yellow labs are mouthbrooders so they're easy to breed, but you'd want another tank to put holding mothers in. You can't leave the fry with the parents like you can with jewels. It would be better to have 4 females to one male. I don't think they'd mix with the gourami.

**Cichlid Man** · 04-24-2006, 03:46 AM

If you really want to keep jewels in a 30g buy a few juvis and let them pair off (If there are no pairs availabe). Or if you want kissers then you really need a bigger tank. Also I wouldn't recomend keeping them with jewels.
I would recommend buying a few dwarf cichlids and a few shoals of tetra for that size tank.

04-23-2006, 05:51 PM	#1
bread Fishy Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	3o gallon tank Hi, I have a 30 gallon tank (30x12x19" i think) and i am really interested in Jewel Cichlids. I don't have any fish in it yet, but ideally i would like to have a jewel pair, a kissing gourami,and a black ghost knifefish. Are all these fish compatable?Also could someone who has jewels tell me how they found a pair? Thank you so much.

04-23-2006, 06:20 PM	#5
AshleytheGreat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mi Town Posts: 785	Black ghost knifefish get pretty big and will need a lot bigger then a 30 Gal tank to thrive. EDIT: And if you want a jewel PAIR as in to breed them they might bully the gourami. __________________ So let the haters hate, let the doubters doubt, I stand by my book, and my life, and I won't dignify this malarkey with any sort of further response.

04-23-2006, 07:34 PM	#17
AshleytheGreat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mi Town Posts: 785	You can get a pair or trio of yellow labs. They are cuties and Im sure your LFS would eat the babies up if you sold them. __________________ So let the haters hate, let the doubters doubt, I stand by my book, and my life, and I won't dignify this malarkey with any sort of further response.

04-24-2006, 03:46 AM	#20
Cichlid Man Super moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,100	If you really want to keep jewels in a 30g buy a few juvis and let them pair off (If there are no pairs availabe). Or if you want kissers then you really need a bigger tank. Also I wouldn't recomend keeping them with jewels. I would recommend buying a few dwarf cichlids and a few shoals of tetra for that size tank. __________________ If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded: Serrasalmus Tetradon(figure eights and dwarfs are the exception). I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families: Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

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04-23-2006, 06:09 PM	#2
FishCrazy1234 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 67	Are u talking about putting all of them in a 30 gallon.

04-23-2006, 06:10 PM	#3
bread Fishy Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Also can you give me some advice on the tank setup? Thanks.

04-23-2006, 06:25 PM	#6
FishCrazy1234 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 67	AshleyTheGreat is right a Black GhostKnife fish gets way to big for a 30 gallon and I have known Jewel Cichlids to be pretty agressive. If I were u I would re-think my tank setup.

04-23-2006, 06:26 PM	#7
FishCrazy1234 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 67	If u really want a pair of Jewel cichlids then I guess u could get them but I woudn't put anything else in there.

04-23-2006, 06:32 PM	#8
bread Fishy Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Now that i know the knifefish won't work, will there be enough room for the gourami and the jewels? What if i get the gourami first and let it get bigger and then add the jewels?

04-23-2006, 06:34 PM	#9
FishCrazy1234 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 67	Well if u buy young jewel cichlids and let them grow up with the gourmai itmight work.

04-23-2006, 06:50 PM	#10
bread Fishy Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	well, eventually i would like the jewels to breed. I have heard you can get a few young jewels and let them pair off and return all but the pair back to the store. Would that work?

04-23-2006, 07:10 PM	#11
FishCrazy1234 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 67	Yeah I would think so.

04-23-2006, 07:11 PM	#12
FishCrazy1234 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 67	Instead of going through all this trouble with the Jewels is there any other kin of fish that u would like.

04-23-2006, 07:19 PM	#14
bread Fishy Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	The kribs seem nice but i know nothing about them.

04-23-2006, 07:30 PM	#15
FishCrazy1234 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 67	The Kribs r pretty easy to take care of they r peaceful. The Kribs can take pretty much any water conditions they get up to around 4 inches not as big as the jewels they like temps. from 72-82°F.

04-23-2006, 07:31 PM	#16
FishCrazy1234 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 67	R u still interested in the gourmai or do u want something different.

04-23-2006, 07:46 PM	#18
bread Fishy Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	are the yellow labs easy to breed? And yes i for sure want a kissing gourami.

04-23-2006, 11:57 PM	#19
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,266	Get Dwarf jewels--Hemichromis christatus, lifililii? or Thomasi. The big ones like bimaculatus are too agressive for that size tank. The small ones are great, intense red with blue spangles. I got all my pairs by raising fry and letting the fish choose. Jewel cichlids are biparental egg layers so they agressively defend their spawn. I really think they would beat up a gourami. I don't know about the ghost knife, he might be okay is he has his own area to hid in. Most people who breed jewels have a species tank. But I think they'd do fine in a community until they pair off. I don't think H. cristatus are any bigger or more difficult or more aggressive than krbs. Yellow labs are mouthbrooders so they're easy to breed, but you'd want another tank to put holding mothers in. You can't leave the fry with the parents like you can with jewels. It would be better to have 4 females to one male. I don't think they'd mix with the gourami.

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