deformed fish getting worse

trashion · 02-05-2008, 02:11 PM

so i have 6 golden harlequin rasboras. i've had 'em for about 2 weeks. one was always slightly deformed, she has no top "lip" so to speak, just a bottom one. there were no signs of illness, and she was eating and swimming just fine. in fact, she was eating more than the others. she's fat and colorful, she was one of the ones trying to spawn the other day.

however, this morning i noticed something very wrong with her. her bottom lip, or what's left of it, seems to be bent outwards. she can't close her mouth, and the opening of her mouth is white. you can literally see into the little hole of her mouth. maybe she broke it on a piece of substrate? or something? i have no idea what's wrong with her, it's not fuzzy at all, and she's swimming normally.

i just fed the rasboras, and she can't grab any food. literally, her mouth stopped functioning, because she has no more "lips." a flake floated past her, and she rammed her mouth into it several times, but she couldn't grab it. i'm very worried, i don't know what's wrong!

Louise163 · 02-05-2008, 02:24 PM

Water stats would be good in ammonia,nitrite, nitrate, and ph.
Sounds like she had flexibactor columnaris to me, false name mouth fungus.
It can rot the mouth away.
Signs of columnaris are bleached out lips, cottony stands, or fluffy mouth.
Once the mouth start to rot way best to destroy the fish, so sorry.

trashion · 02-05-2008, 04:38 PM

AMMONIA: 0
NITRITE: 0
NITRATE: 20
pH: 6.8 (lowered with CO2 from 7.6)
GH: 120 ppm
KH: 80 ppm

50% weekly wc.

Louise163 · 02-05-2008, 04:48 PM

Water stats are good and stocking.
If she also has a hole in her mouth I would put her out of her misery, not nice I know but she in a bad way, sorry.

nathanbarry · 03-16-2008, 10:54 AM

Is the fish alright now?

trashion · 03-16-2008, 11:27 AM

Yeah, it's still perky and lively! It was never swimming oddly, it just has the weird deformity. It still tries to spawn with everyone else. They've all been growing, and her body is a little weird-shaped too (it's kinda flat)

nathanbarry · 03-16-2008, 11:32 AM

Well, atleast she hasn't died.

oliesminis · 03-16-2008, 11:48 AM

got to say that you may need to remove it if it is trying to spawn as any fry could have the same deformaty

-olie

trashion · 03-16-2008, 11:58 AM

Don't worry, the water parameters aren't correct for them to spawn. The females keep trying, but the males aren't having any of it.

oliesminis · 03-16-2008, 04:59 PM

oh ok thats good then, is it strugeling to eat/eating?

trashion · 03-16-2008, 06:06 PM

It's boisterous around eating time, and somehow manages to get plenty of food. It's growing at the same pace as the others.

trashion · 04-07-2008, 11:06 AM

Uh oh. As of today, I came back from being away for a weekend and there's no sign of the deformed fish, and no body. My krib is swimming around sneakily. I think something must have happened to her and he ate her

02-05-2008, 02:11 PM	#1
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 868 User Feedback: (0)	deformed fish getting worse so i have 6 golden harlequin rasboras. i've had 'em for about 2 weeks. one was always slightly deformed, she has no top "lip" so to speak, just a bottom one. there were no signs of illness, and she was eating and swimming just fine. in fact, she was eating more than the others. she's fat and colorful, she was one of the ones trying to spawn the other day. however, this morning i noticed something very wrong with her. her bottom lip, or what's left of it, seems to be bent outwards. she can't close her mouth, and the opening of her mouth is white. you can literally see into the little hole of her mouth. maybe she broke it on a piece of substrate? or something? i have no idea what's wrong with her, it's not fuzzy at all, and she's swimming normally. i just fed the rasboras, and she can't grab any food. literally, her mouth stopped functioning, because she has no more "lips." a flake floated past her, and she rammed her mouth into it several times, but she couldn't grab it. i'm very worried, i don't know what's wrong! __________________ current setup: 15 gallon, planted w/ pressurized co2, 55watts PC lighting, EI fert dosing. -5 harlequin rasboras -7 Aspidoras pauciradiatus (sixray or false corydoras) for reference: my name is Julie

02-05-2008, 04:38 PM	#3
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 868 User Feedback: (0)	AMMONIA: 0 NITRITE: 0 NITRATE: 20 pH: 6.8 (lowered with CO2 from 7.6) GH: 120 ppm KH: 80 ppm 50% weekly wc. __________________ current setup: 15 gallon, planted w/ pressurized co2, 55watts PC lighting, EI fert dosing. -5 harlequin rasboras -7 Aspidoras pauciradiatus (sixray or false corydoras) for reference: my name is Julie

03-16-2008, 10:54 AM	#5
nathanbarry -~Fish Watcher~- Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Midlands, England Posts: 252 User Feedback: (0)	Is the fish alright now? __________________ 10 Gallon 3 Albino Corydoras, 2 Mickey-Mouse Platies, 2 Orange Gourami's, 2 Zebra Danios and 1 Khuli Loach (Small) 5 Gallon 2 Platies and 3 Neon Tetra's 55 Gallon 4 Parrot Cichlids, 1 Pictus Catfish, 1 Common Pleco and 3 Clown Loaches 55 Gallon Assorted Malawi Cichlids (Mbuna) and 1 Common Pleco

03-16-2008, 11:27 AM	#6
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 868 User Feedback: (0)	Yeah, it's still perky and lively! It was never swimming oddly, it just has the weird deformity. It still tries to spawn with everyone else. They've all been growing, and her body is a little weird-shaped too (it's kinda flat) __________________ current setup: 15 gallon, planted w/ pressurized co2, 55watts PC lighting, EI fert dosing. -5 harlequin rasboras -7 Aspidoras pauciradiatus (sixray or false corydoras) for reference: my name is Julie

03-16-2008, 11:32 AM	#7
nathanbarry -~Fish Watcher~- Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Midlands, England Posts: 252 User Feedback: (0)	Well, atleast she hasn't died. __________________ 10 Gallon 3 Albino Corydoras, 2 Mickey-Mouse Platies, 2 Orange Gourami's, 2 Zebra Danios and 1 Khuli Loach (Small) 5 Gallon 2 Platies and 3 Neon Tetra's 55 Gallon 4 Parrot Cichlids, 1 Pictus Catfish, 1 Common Pleco and 3 Clown Loaches 55 Gallon Assorted Malawi Cichlids (Mbuna) and 1 Common Pleco

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02-05-2008, 02:24 PM	#2
Louise163 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 82 User Feedback: (0)	Water stats would be good in ammonia,nitrite, nitrate, and ph. Sounds like she had flexibactor columnaris to me, false name mouth fungus. It can rot the mouth away. Signs of columnaris are bleached out lips, cottony stands, or fluffy mouth. Once the mouth start to rot way best to destroy the fish, so sorry.

02-05-2008, 04:48 PM	#4
Louise163 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 82 User Feedback: (0)	Water stats are good and stocking. If she also has a hole in her mouth I would put her out of her misery, not nice I know but she in a bad way, sorry.

03-16-2008, 11:48 AM	#8
oliesminis FISH ARE FREINDS NOT FOOD Join Date: May 2007 Location: England, Milton Keynes Age: 15 Posts: 490 User Feedback: (0)	got to say that you may need to remove it if it is trying to spawn as any fry could have the same deformaty -olie __________________ OllieCoxPhotography Why, in a world of thousands of languages, does everbody laugh the same

03-16-2008, 11:58 AM	#9
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 868 User Feedback: (0)	Don't worry, the water parameters aren't correct for them to spawn. The females keep trying, but the males aren't having any of it. __________________ current setup: 15 gallon, planted w/ pressurized co2, 55watts PC lighting, EI fert dosing. -5 harlequin rasboras -7 Aspidoras pauciradiatus (sixray or false corydoras) for reference: my name is Julie

03-16-2008, 04:59 PM	#10
oliesminis FISH ARE FREINDS NOT FOOD Join Date: May 2007 Location: England, Milton Keynes Age: 15 Posts: 490 User Feedback: (0)	oh ok thats good then, is it strugeling to eat/eating? __________________ OllieCoxPhotography Why, in a world of thousands of languages, does everbody laugh the same

03-16-2008, 06:06 PM	#11
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 868 User Feedback: (0)	It's boisterous around eating time, and somehow manages to get plenty of food. It's growing at the same pace as the others. __________________ current setup: 15 gallon, planted w/ pressurized co2, 55watts PC lighting, EI fert dosing. -5 harlequin rasboras -7 Aspidoras pauciradiatus (sixray or false corydoras) for reference: my name is Julie

04-07-2008, 11:06 AM	#12
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 868 User Feedback: (0)	Uh oh. As of today, I came back from being away for a weekend and there's no sign of the deformed fish, and no body. My krib is swimming around sneakily. I think something must have happened to her and he ate her __________________ current setup: 15 gallon, planted w/ pressurized co2, 55watts PC lighting, EI fert dosing. -5 harlequin rasboras -7 Aspidoras pauciradiatus (sixray or false corydoras) for reference: my name is Julie

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