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01-08-2013, 03:54 PM
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coppersafe/gill parasites
Hi, well i just brought home some coppersafe for my yoyo loach that's been scratching it's gills a lot, and would like to know the specifics of use/treatment, thx! All i know is to dose half the recommended for scaless fish...but what about waterchanges during treatment, temp during treatment and duration of treatment...etc. Thx again!!! 
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37 gal (tall):
7 Neon Tetras
3 Yoyo Loaches
1 Silver Angel Fish
1 Bushynose Pleco
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01-08-2013, 05:48 PM
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that information should be on the label...i wouldn't buy any medication that didn't tell me about a treatment plan.
does the label tell you to only treat 1/2 dose for scaleless fish ?
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PLECOCAINE = feeding frenzy=PLECOCAINE
if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away
10 gallon..nothing but air
10 gallon...just more air
10 gallon...stale air
just don't ask about the rest
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01-08-2013, 06:27 PM
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About the dose, no, that's something i read elsewhere. Although the instruction do say to treat for 1 month, i am unsure if treatment time will vary when doing a 1/2 dose... i'm assuming treat for doubly long, but not positive. thx.
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37 gal (tall):
7 Neon Tetras
3 Yoyo Loaches
1 Silver Angel Fish
1 Bushynose Pleco
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01-08-2013, 07:11 PM
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a lot of people make the mistake of assuming all medications should only be 1/2 dosed for skinned fishes..not always true..if coppersafe needs to be 1/2 dosed it will say so on the package...
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PLECOCAINE = feeding frenzy=PLECOCAINE
if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away
10 gallon..nothing but air
10 gallon...just more air
10 gallon...stale air
just don't ask about the rest
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01-08-2013, 08:35 PM
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Darth Ichthyos
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Coppersafe is a one-time-dose med. You put it in the tank and don't change any water for a month. No temperature adjustment needed. It's chelated copper instead of "raw," hence the name of copperSAFE. It's usually harmless to scaleless fish.
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01-08-2013, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOldSalt
Coppersafe is a one-time-dose med. You put it in the tank and don't change any water for a month. No temperature adjustment needed. It's chelated copper instead of "raw," hence the name of copperSAFE. It's usually harmless to scaleless fish.
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I sure hope you're 100% sure with that...if so i'll dose the recommended sunday after my next pwc and leave it for a month...thx guys 
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37 gal (tall):
7 Neon Tetras
3 Yoyo Loaches
1 Silver Angel Fish
1 Bushynose Pleco
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01-09-2013, 07:35 PM
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Darth Ichthyos
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Well, I'm not 100% sure. If your water is soft, then full-dose coppersafe is no good for scaleless fish. If your water is hard, they should be fine. I should have thought of that earlier, but I never have to worry about it with my water.
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01-10-2013, 01:39 PM
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Just googled it, and apparently our water supply here is "very soft"...what now...1/2 dose ???
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37 gal (tall):
7 Neon Tetras
3 Yoyo Loaches
1 Silver Angel Fish
1 Bushynose Pleco
Last edited by Slicey P; 01-10-2013 at 04:47 PM.
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01-11-2013, 11:10 AM
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Darth Ichthyos
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Either that or try another treatment option.
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01-11-2013, 07:46 PM
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So do i treat for 2 months at half dose instead of 1 at full??
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37 gal (tall):
7 Neon Tetras
3 Yoyo Loaches
1 Silver Angel Fish
1 Bushynose Pleco
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01-12-2013, 01:12 PM
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Darth Ichthyos
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Neither. 1 month, half-dose.
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01-12-2013, 08:52 PM
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Do you know anything about copper meds being absorbed by the gravel??
A couple of years ago I was using a copper product that had to be brought up to a certain level. I added the recommended dose for the size tank. When I took the water sampe in to the BA store they said that there was nothing in the water. This is when i found out that apparently the gravel can absorb it and therefor the fish don't get treated. The copper med was a few years old. It had no affect on the ick at all.
Just wondering.
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Toronto. Canada
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01-14-2013, 04:28 PM
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Thx all!!! Gonna get a test kit to make sure copper levels are proper.
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37 gal (tall):
7 Neon Tetras
3 Yoyo Loaches
1 Silver Angel Fish
1 Bushynose Pleco
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01-14-2013, 06:29 PM
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Darth Ichthyos
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Gravel and silicone both can absorb copper.
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