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Old 04-15-2008, 07:50 PM   #1
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Unhappy !!!PLEASE Hurry HELP!!!

I am trying to run 170gs or 4 foam filters. I want one pump that will do it all.

DOES ANYONE KNOW FO A GOOD RELIABLE AQUARIUM AIR PUMP THAT CAN DO THE JOB?

HOW MUCH AIR DO I NEED TO RUN THE FOUR FILTERS?

I can't seem to get an answer.


Running 100, 50, 10, 10, and appropriate foam filters only what is the minimum air pump size that I need?
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:06 PM   #2
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I'm thinking of a tetra deep water pump.

BUT I REALLY DON"T KNOW WHAT TO GET. PLS HELP
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:10 PM   #3
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Maybe these will help you


http://www.petsolutions.com/Super-Lu...01656+C10.aspx

http://www.petsolutions.com/Dynamast...40+C10106.aspx
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:14 PM   #4
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I still have a lot of questions that remain unanswered!
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:21 PM   #5
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Perhaps because this is not an emergency, and acting like it is can frustrate people.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:57 PM   #6
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All four tanks have NO filtation. current pump cannot handle load and broke. Need better pump.
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:00 PM   #7
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Them are good pumps.
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:11 PM   #8
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Not everyone is on the website at night and not everyone knows enough about pumps to recommend one.


Ricker gave you a couple suggestions.
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:12 PM   #9
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Ricker gave you a couple suggestions
LOL ya them are good. To much for me though.
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All four tanks have NO filtation. current pump cannot handle load and broke. Need better pump.
Do you not have a HOB are they all sponge?
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:05 PM   #10
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What is a HOB pray tell. I have all foam filters.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:06 PM   #11
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HOB is hang on the back, like an aquaclear filter
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:24 PM   #12
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It looks like a whisper 100 or Rena 400 or Whisper AP 300 would work. I have one each of the little ones and they've all gone a few years with no issues. See if this page helps.
http://pet-supplies.drsfostersmith.c...&subtotal=0.00
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...fm?pCatId=3676


Do you have a air compressor, like a 1/4 horsepower one for paint or nails? You can use that for fish in a pinch.

Go get the biggest aquarium air-pump wal-mart sells tonight and shop around for the best replacement until it breaks.

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Old 04-15-2008, 11:28 PM   #13
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I use the 5-star on the following page in my fishroom. I'm using one on a 125g, 55g, 20g, and 20g, and another for a whole bunch of 20g and 10g tanks.
And its hard to beat the price ($22) for a four-nozzle high output pump...

http://www.kensfish.com/diaphramairpumps.html
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:02 AM   #14
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Thanks guys for all the suggestions. I have moved the fish all into my 100 and am currently feeding that with 25 gallon rated pump.

I like the dolphins. Do they hold up well?

What do you think of the Tetra company's products. Their whisper gave out on me.
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I think you said the whisper was a 60. It wasn't rated for your size tank. Try to use products in their target specs. I know real specs. are hard to find. The brands all get sold, and the all change parts suppliers, so what was a good brand last year could suck tomorrow. I have a little dolphin air pump that works fine. I can't say if it will extrapolate to their big ones, but at that price, I am tempted to order the one Red recommends myself and replace several little air pumps.
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I went down to feed my fish and looked around. I have a dolphin 1P, a 1 star, and a deluxe (2 outlets). The deluxe is powering a sponge filter in a 55g from one outlet. And all of them are quiet compared to other pumps in the rooms.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:51 AM   #17
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Why are you looking for just one pump to run all your tanks, anyway? An old adage about eggs and baskets comes to mind.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:17 AM   #18
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I'm confused.

Are you using an air pump to run under gravel or sponge filters? If so they are inadequate for big tanks like a 100 gallon.

If you are just using them to make bubbles and you have some other type of filtration running, then there is no problem. You don't even really need to produce bubbles. It is an antiquated belief that the bubbles bring chemicals to the surface. They may, but, they do so little that they really don't help any.

As for Tetra / Whisper products verses others, keep in mind that Spectrum Brands owns both Tetra and Marineland and all subsidiary companies associated. Other major manufacturers in the pet arena are Hagen: they make Fluval, Rena, etc. Eheim makes Eheim, Jager, mp, Hetscher, etc. It is impossible to label a brand or a manufacturer as good or bad because they are horribly inconsistent from product line to product line and even from product to product in a line. For instance, I would never ever ever buy a Whisper filter but I like their air pumps. I would never ever ever buy a heater from any Hagen division but I generally like most Fluval canisters and I love Fluval lids.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:22 AM   #19
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I'm looking for one pump to run all the outside tanks because I don't believe it is that hard to do!

(I don't use air with my inside tanks.)

I am only running 4 foam filters. They are nessecary to keep the water clean since the tanks are sheltered outside water-borne alge grows quite rapidly. I don't know how much air you really need to run the foam filters.

Thanks for exposing the truth about those brands.

My whisper is shot.

The foam filters are rated for over the size tanks I have. A 125 rated filter in the 100 a 80 rated filter in the 50 and 20 rated filters in the 10s.

I use the filters for safe filtration as opposed to aitraition.

I wonder really how much air I need.

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Old 04-16-2008, 11:36 AM   #20
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sponge filters? If so they are inadequate for big tanks like a 100 gallon.
I'm don't agree. Have you seen the pond-size hydro sponges. Combined with water changes and bottom siphoning 4 of them could do the job. Most of my biggest sponge filters have little power heads, but it got to be safer to run airline outside than electrical cords.
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