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Old 01-27-2007, 05:25 PM   #16
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i know your not being serious, but shame, your betta would have been much happier.ignore me if your want, that just proves your guilt, or that your trying to silence the truth
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Old 01-27-2007, 05:31 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by bettaboy691
would love to see what people wrote about if i said i bought a puffer fish down from the shop, placed it in a 1gallon jar, cleaned it out ever week or so.what do you think people would say then?
That made no sense in regards to this conversation whatsoever. For one thing, puffers are not accomodated to live in small quarters as bettas are and are much more active. Second of all, RC's bettas get multiple water changes every day, not "every week or so." Honestly, just leave it alone. RC made a post to show his ingenious set up, if you have a problem wiht it then refrain from looking at this thread.
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Old 01-27-2007, 05:32 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by bettaboy691
that just proves your guilt, or that your trying to silence the truth
Or you are just annoying the crap out of him.
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Old 01-27-2007, 05:33 PM   #19
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I tired to keep this on a not personal level,but I guess that's to much to ask for. How much experience do you have keeping Bettas ? or fish in general ? What do you base your experience on ? Show me all the studies that show fish can be happy or unhappy ? Fish are not people and do not have the same mental capacity as we do. Putting you on ignore doesn't silence you... It's means I don't have to listen to your opinion. I've already heard you so why keeping hearing it over and over ?


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Old 01-27-2007, 05:41 PM   #20
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how much experience?well with betta my dad taught me a lot, but on my own about 8 year, now i know your saying thats not as much as your but it doesn take a 15 year fish expert to say keeping bettas in small jars is cruel, fish in gereral, about the same.happy or unhappy, well they are still living things and they have feelings, they can remember things like feeding times and each have their personallity.they may not have the same mental capaticy as humans do, but that doesnt give you the right to treat them as retarde keeping them in jars and cups for theyr entire life.


oh and scubakid, "puffers are not accomodated to live in small quarters as bettas are "
bettas are not adapted to be kept in small volumes of water, not with their long fins, in the wild they have huge amounts of shallow waters to swim in.just because they get daily water changes doesnt make it better, so they are living in clean 32oz of water,still too small. he may have posted this topic to show his setup but why cant people post replys that arent all "wow fantastic" or "looking good".is all hes expecting is good comments?
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Old 01-27-2007, 05:47 PM   #21
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Bettas are not as active as puffers. end of story. i'm sorry if you don't think this is true, but you are WRONG. And RC has recieved enough negative comments from you, so yes. You should not be posting about his setup being a "betta prison." All you are doing is aggrivating people. We understand your opinion on betta keeping but continuing to tell people they are wrong is not going to change all of these experienced people's minds. RC has been keeping them thr same way SUCCESSFULLY for years. Let it go, its over.
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Old 01-27-2007, 05:49 PM   #22
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retards ? Did you really say keeping them in small containers like retards ? Are you saying it's ok to keep handicapped people in little rooms? That's shows me something of your true feelings. Fish are not to be kept in small containers but handicapped people can be ? I hope I miss understood your post.

Guys don't fight with him. It's not going to change a single thing on how he feels. He's untitled to his opinion. We don't need this at fish forums. I let this go on far to long myself.
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:23 PM   #23
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I am also getting annoyed with your repetative posts. Yes, you are allotted an opinion! As is every one else in the God damned world! But you are taking your right to an opinion too far. If you wish to post your specific opinion that states that bettas should be kept in larger containers, do what you did in in the betta section. Start a post that states your opinion, why your opinion is such, and go with it from there.

How you are handling your opinion and how you are "pushing" it down people's throats! If your goal isn't to shove it down people's throats, that is how you are coming off. It is unprofessional, immoral, and just plain obnoxious.

After seeing RC's setup, instead of going "that's wrong" and "it should be", you COULD have asked "why", and he would have explained his veiws on the subject, and you could have calmly explained your point of veiw, and everyone could have had a civilized discussion to read and grow from, and drawn their own opinions frim either way or the other. Because of your actions not only in this section of the forum, but in the betta one also, you are taking away from the general growth and discussion.

I ask you as some one who is new to this forum, looking for help, input to a difficult goal that I have for myself, and just ingeneral learning about bettas, what is good for them and what is not, I ask you to yes, put forth your opinion, because opinions and different inputs and experiences are what makes a forum a forum, but to put them forth more professionally.

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Old 01-27-2007, 06:31 PM   #24
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So please, can't everyone just get along!
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:01 PM   #25
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Here is a picture of a Indoor pond I had, but took down because I didn't want to chance my 2 year old son getting in it. The second picture is off the goldfish in the pond and the third is of a German Blue Ram tank.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:09 PM   #26
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Here's one of the Rams.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:52 PM   #27
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o wow a indoor pond!
Dont worry about Bettaboy anymore


RC, i guess i must have overlooked that you were all out into breeding betta's, i have been wanting to setup a tank with a very nice betta male and neon tetra's, do you have pics of some of the males up close?
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:06 PM   #28
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Sorry it had to turn ugly. I tried to end it peacefully in the Betta area,but I guess it couldn't end that way.Here are a couple of pictures of males. I've been breeding Bettas for a long time and been an IBC member almost as long. I've been nominated to run for President of the IBC next term.


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Old 01-27-2007, 08:22 PM   #29
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I want a white one but they all seem to be in singapore
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Auriglobus silus x2
Colomesus asellus x1
Tetraodon travancoricus x1
Tetraodon biocellatus x2
Tetraodon nigroviridis x1
Tetraodon baileyi x2
Tetraodon lineatus x1
Tetraodon palembangensis x1

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Old 01-27-2007, 08:39 PM   #30
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There are IBC breeders that are working opaque whites. The other white color is platinum which is light bodied metallic. I will be working one or both of the lines this spring.


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