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Old 07-11-2006, 10:10 AM   #1
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Lot's of people are stumped when it comes to choosing fish. There are so many to choose from. However, many people make the mistake of buying a completely incompatable selection of fish, as they all look so pretty it's hard to know which ones to get!
In my opinion, it's always nice to have a biotope aquarium in the house, where all the selected fish come from the same region.
Here are some of my favorites:

Asian backwaters:

tiger barbs
harelquin rasboras
zebra danios
white cloud mountain minnows
dwarf gourami(wild type)
betta(wild type)
RTB shark

South American Blackwaters:

cardinal tetras
rummy nosed tetras
hatchets
cories
shoal altum angels
pair discus
pair dwarf cichlids

Central american community tank

guppies
platies
mollies
swordtails

There are lot's of other tanks which are very pleasing to the eye, particualy the ones with fish coming all from the same family.
I've seen a few tanks which look very pleasing to the eye, here are a few which I'd reccomend:

150g Gourami Tank:

3 (1 male 2 females) peal gouramis
3 blue/gold gouramis
3 moonlight
3 paradise fish
group of dwarf gouramis
group of honey gourmmis
group of chocolate gouramis

Tetra Tank

This tank purely consists of one of each similarly sized tetra species.
However, large aggressive tetra like buenos aires and black widows should not be included due to their aggressive nature.
A 55g planted tank can be made to look quite nice with one of each of the following speices:

neon
cardinal
green neon
glowlight
black neon
rummy nose
emperor
red phantom
black phantom
lemon
ember
rosey
blue
diamond

When first introduced they may seem a little nervous being seperated from their own species, but give it a few days and they'll all start to interact. Once they've all got used to each other they'll even begin to form shoals!
And beleive me it's one hell of a sight, it's one big wave of color!
Give it a try.
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If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded:
Serrasalmus
Tetradon
(figure eights and dwarfs are the
exception).

I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families:
Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

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Old 07-11-2006, 10:18 AM   #2
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I never knew black widow tetras were aggressive. I always thought they were peaceful like mine are. Well maybe thats why the angels haven't beaten them up because they know how to defend themselves. LOL

Oh BTW, nice job CM.
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:42 PM   #3
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hey what size tank would you suggest as the minimum for a pair of discus? I have a 29 gallon i would like to house discus in but ideally i would like to have them in a tank with my dwarf cichlids (bolivians 2 and 1 gold ram). I also have a couple of rainbows (australian) which i would like to have in there. I think it will be too cramped but would they possibly fit into a 40 gallon?
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A 29 gallon should be just fine for a pair of discus.
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I would think a 29g would be way to small IMO, I think a 55g is the minimum size tank that they should be in but 75g is better.
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Discus are schooling fish so its usually recommended to get a group of them...unless you have a known breeding pair...then I'd say a 40g is minimum. But, if they aren't a known pair...get a group of 4-5.
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Old 07-12-2006, 02:04 PM   #7
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A 29 gallon should be just fine for a pair of discus.
I would take this guys advice, as he's obviously an experienced discus breeder who takes in the concideration of the fishes potential adult size, and the welfare of such fish.
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Serrasalmus
Tetradon
(figure eights and dwarfs are the
exception).

I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families:
Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.
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Are you being sarcastic or serious Cichlid Man? I can't tell...
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He's being sarcastic. I would have guessed he Michael would have caught on by now. lol
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Hi
I wouldn't really recommend a pair in a 29 gallons unless it's for breeding purposes. A group of 6 discus in a 55 gallons is fine.
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:25 AM   #11
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Thats what's everyone's been saying already. Also michael doesn't really know anything about discus which is why cm was being sarcastic.
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Old 08-09-2006, 07:18 PM   #12
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dmarcus,
The 29 is WAY too small, what's been posted is true. 55G minimum, odd numbers to avoid bullying (they are cichlids after all). Also, the rainbows have got to go, they'll freak out the discus with their continual swimming (voice of experience here). Discus like it calm, shaded and mellow. the rams "should" be OK, but watch at feeding time that they not taking too much of the food (quick little buggers). Don't know about the clown plec sucking on discus slime coat, bristlenose is the only "pleco-type" catfish I've ever seen successfully kept with discus. Remember, if you decide to have a community tank with discus, it's a "discus tank" first, a community tank second. Just do some research on any new fish in regards to discus compatilbility. To be safe, no info, don't buy the new fish.
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:02 PM   #13
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Any suggestions for an African River setup? I think that there are a lot of really cool African fish that get overlooked because the cichlids take all the spotlight.
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:35 AM   #14
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Hi there, welcome to the forums.
You are right, there are lots of african fish out their which are overlooked in the hobby and not imported regulary. What siez tank have you got?
If you prefer larger fish, you could have catfish like synodontis, elephant-nosed fish, and african knife fish. The tiger fish is also another interesting fish.
If smaller fish is what you are after then a shoals of tetra like congos will make a good display, as well as african glass catfish.
There are many cichlids like kribs and butterfly cichlids which will do very well in this type of setup, as well as blockhead cichlids.
It's best to keep this setup as clean as possible with lots of small regular water changes of pure tap water. e.g. a bucket of water every day. This way the nitrates/tannins will not be allowd to build up. This will simulate the constant clear white-water conditions of a large river in africa like the Congo.
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If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded:
Serrasalmus
Tetradon
(figure eights and dwarfs are the
exception).

I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families:
Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.
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What do you mean by "pure tap water"? Kind of an oxymoron isn't it?
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What do you mean by "pure tap water"? Kind of an oxymoron isn't it?
Water straight outta the tap?
That clear enough for you moron?
As clear as "pure" tap water. LMAO!
See if you like that oxymoron.
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If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded:
Serrasalmus
Tetradon
(figure eights and dwarfs are the
exception).

I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families:
Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.

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Sorry, I come from a reef background. We don't use tap water for anything because of all the phosphates and nitrates. You're are just suggesting frequent water changes with dechlorinated tap water correct? Sorry to derail the sticky, feel free to move or delete this tangent.
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Don't worry about it.
Yeah, I suppose using RO water is a lot safer, but if your tap water is more than ideal for the fish you keep, then you might as well use that source.
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If you have a big enough tank with enough hiding places, pH of around 7, you can keep virtually any fish together as long as all the fish are around the same size and these two groups of fish are avioded:
Serrasalmus
Tetradon
(figure eights and dwarfs are the
exception).

I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families:
Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.
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That clear enough for you moron?
Lets try and keep this civil. We're all on the same team here...
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Lets try and keep this civil. We're all on the same team here...
And who the hell is this jerk?
LMAO!
PLus this thread is like really old.
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(figure eights and dwarfs are the
exception).

I keep a successful community of fish in a 4 foot tank including the following families:
Cichlids, tetras, loaches, gouramis, barbs, rainbows, livebearers, killiefish, catfish, puffers.
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