German Rams

Humpy · 12-06-2006, 04:14 PM

hey i have a 5" BGK and 3-3" Upside Down Catfish and a 2" Clown Pleco. I also have 5 cherry barbs in there. Now would i be able to add a german ram or two? The BGk is moving out of that tank in about 2 months when i buy another 80-100g.

Phantom_Cichlid · 12-06-2006, 04:19 PM

No you cant add any while the BGK is in that tank.

Humpy · 12-06-2006, 04:21 PM

well would it be okay when i move the BGK?
then i will have 3 upside down catfish, a clown pleco and 2 german rams. I will move the cherries as well

Phantom_Cichlid · 12-06-2006, 04:23 PM

Yes then is should be ok but Humpy I personally suggest Bolivian Rams they are much hardier unlike the German Blue and Gold Rams which are both sensitive to water parameters and meds.

Humpy · 12-06-2006, 04:25 PM

but the german blue rams are so beautiful. I have plants in the tank and plan on heavily planting it. I also do weekly water tests and water changes between 10 and 25%

So do you say no with the bgk in there because the bgk is going to grow so much or because the bgk will harm the rams or because the bioload will be too much

Phantom_Cichlid · 12-06-2006, 04:29 PM

Ok this is based on my opinion
1. To much waste which means a good size bio load
2. They are VERY sensitive
3. The BGK will eat them

Humpy · 12-06-2006, 04:32 PM

oh bgk is very small right now 5" maybe, he will be moved before he gets too big, can't stay in a 33g for too long. He can't even eat the cherry barbs right now.
Dont plants help with the bioload?

Phantom_Cichlid · 12-06-2006, 04:34 PM

Humpy the BGk is still to big and he/she will terrorize the Rams.

Humpy · 12-06-2006, 04:39 PM

okay but i will be good when i move the bgk out for the bioload?

Phantom_Cichlid · 12-06-2006, 04:40 PM

Yes you should be but Humpy please look into bolivians you might like them

Humpy · 12-06-2006, 04:41 PM

I will do that

Phantom_Cichlid · 12-06-2006, 04:45 PM

Thank you Humpy, Bolivians are much hardier then Blues and Golds I personally like them.

Humpy · 12-06-2006, 05:07 PM

thanx for your help and quick reply

Phantom_Cichlid · 12-06-2006, 05:59 PM

No problem Humpy just trying to help out

**Fishfirst** · 12-07-2006, 10:22 AM

I have to disagree. The rams should be fine, I've had multiple rams with a black ghost knife. Removeing the cherry barbs is not necessary once you have moved the bgk. I personally think that bgk's should be in a 210 gallon or larger when fully grown. They can attain a length of 20 inches easily.

Gourami Swami · 12-07-2006, 01:53 PM

In aquaria though it is rare that you see one over 15", and that combined with the fact that they hide most of the day, makes them an okay candidate for a 100 gallon tank. You can even ask on knifefish specialty boards if you want, you will get the same answer.

12-06-2006, 04:14 PM	#1
Humpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 167	German Rams hey i have a 5" BGK and 3-3" Upside Down Catfish and a 2" Clown Pleco. I also have 5 cherry barbs in there. Now would i be able to add a german ram or two? The BGk is moving out of that tank in about 2 months when i buy another 80-100g.

12-06-2006, 04:19 PM	#2
Phantom_Cichlid Confused Fish Keeper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 613	No you cant add any while the BGK is in that tank. __________________ The store that sold you those fish was trying to make money. The people on this board are replying for free because they care about fish. Please, take our word, not theirs.

12-06-2006, 04:23 PM	#4
Phantom_Cichlid Confused Fish Keeper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 613	Yes then is should be ok but Humpy I personally suggest Bolivian Rams they are much hardier unlike the German Blue and Gold Rams which are both sensitive to water parameters and meds. __________________ The store that sold you those fish was trying to make money. The people on this board are replying for free because they care about fish. Please, take our word, not theirs.

12-06-2006, 04:29 PM	#6
Phantom_Cichlid Confused Fish Keeper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 613	Ok this is based on my opinion 1. To much waste which means a good size bio load 2. They are VERY sensitive 3. The BGK will eat them __________________ The store that sold you those fish was trying to make money. The people on this board are replying for free because they care about fish. Please, take our word, not theirs.

12-06-2006, 04:34 PM	#8
Phantom_Cichlid Confused Fish Keeper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 613	Humpy the BGk is still to big and he/she will terrorize the Rams. __________________ The store that sold you those fish was trying to make money. The people on this board are replying for free because they care about fish. Please, take our word, not theirs.

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12-06-2006, 04:21 PM	#3
Humpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 167	well would it be okay when i move the BGK? then i will have 3 upside down catfish, a clown pleco and 2 german rams. I will move the cherries as well

12-06-2006, 04:25 PM	#5
Humpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 167	but the german blue rams are so beautiful. I have plants in the tank and plan on heavily planting it. I also do weekly water tests and water changes between 10 and 25% So do you say no with the bgk in there because the bgk is going to grow so much or because the bgk will harm the rams or because the bioload will be too much

12-06-2006, 04:32 PM	#7
Humpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 167	oh bgk is very small right now 5" maybe, he will be moved before he gets too big, can't stay in a 33g for too long. He can't even eat the cherry barbs right now. Dont plants help with the bioload?

12-06-2006, 04:39 PM	#9
Humpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 167	okay but i will be good when i move the bgk out for the bioload?

12-06-2006, 04:40 PM	#10
Phantom_Cichlid Confused Fish Keeper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 613	Yes you should be but Humpy please look into bolivians you might like them __________________ The store that sold you those fish was trying to make money. The people on this board are replying for free because they care about fish. Please, take our word, not theirs.

12-06-2006, 04:41 PM	#11
Humpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 167	I will do that

12-06-2006, 04:45 PM	#12
Phantom_Cichlid Confused Fish Keeper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 613	Thank you Humpy, Bolivians are much hardier then Blues and Golds I personally like them. __________________ The store that sold you those fish was trying to make money. The people on this board are replying for free because they care about fish. Please, take our word, not theirs.

12-06-2006, 05:07 PM	#13
Humpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 167	thanx for your help and quick reply

12-06-2006, 05:59 PM	#14
Phantom_Cichlid Confused Fish Keeper Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 613	No problem Humpy just trying to help out __________________ The store that sold you those fish was trying to make money. The people on this board are replying for free because they care about fish. Please, take our word, not theirs.

12-07-2006, 10:22 AM	#15
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,527	I have to disagree. The rams should be fine, I've had multiple rams with a black ghost knife. Removeing the cherry barbs is not necessary once you have moved the bgk. I personally think that bgk's should be in a 210 gallon or larger when fully grown. They can attain a length of 20 inches easily. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

12-07-2006, 01:53 PM	#16
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,106	In aquaria though it is rare that you see one over 15", and that combined with the fact that they hide most of the day, makes them an okay candidate for a 100 gallon tank. You can even ask on knifefish specialty boards if you want, you will get the same answer. __________________

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