empty 29 gallon

[tromeokid]

I have 29 gallon thats starving for some fish, i have an adult golden angel fish in a 75 gallon I was thinking about moving so he could have his own place but i thought he may enjoy another Angel. is this wise? im not sure what else i would put in the 29 gallon, any suggestions?


Thanks.

[Zoe]

Is there a reason you want to move the gold out of the 75 gallon tank? Do you have other angels in the 75? Angelfish aren't really schoolers per se, but they do enjoy being in groups.
I think you could put your angel in the 29, but I don't think you'd have room for other angels, namely because if you have only 2 or 3 angels (2 being the most I'd recommend for a 29 gal), you may see some aggression. If you put the gold in the 29 gallon, you could have him being the only angel, along with a school of tetras (neons or glowlights - small tetras, not larger ones) or rasboras. Or some small rainbows, like furcata forktails. Or, if you fancy something small with a bigger attitude, some scarlet badis or blue badis (not that they're aggressive or anything; I just find they're more individual than tetras and rasboras).
Either that, or you could try setting up your golden with a mate? You might want to try getting them to hook up in the 75 first, but then you could move the pair into the 29. But in that case, you probably wouldn't want to get any other fish, as the pair will probably want to use the entire tank to themselves when they're spawning.

Just a thought, and I might be anthropomorphising here, but I'd be worried maybe a tad about moving a fish from a 75 gallon tank to a tank half that size.

[tromeokid]

He is the only Angel in the 75 gallon but i already have to fat bala's, a butterfly, 3 clown loaches a horse face loach and a rope fish. I was an un uneducated dead beat father a few years ago and now my Bala's are growing too large i cant give them away as no LFS will take them nor will anyone else around here. im trying to make some room for now and have had the 29 gallon for sometime. (it use to house ciclids but wasnt big enough to hold the aggression) i am a bit confused about adding tetras to the 29 gallon and the angel because everywhere else i have ever read said Angels love small fish?! its sadly only a matter of time before my bala's out grow the 75 gallon to which i plan on adding rainbows in their place. i had already ruled out Tetras because of the Angel.

[Zoe]

It depends on the size of the angel and the size of the tetra... any fish can be expected to eat any fish that will fit in their mouths, but most (adult) tetras are too big to be eaten by most angelfish. If you put a large angelfish in with a school of baby neons then yeah, you'll lost your neons, but if your neons are big enough then it's no danger. I have neons and harlequin rasboras in my 90 gallon with a bunch of adult angelfish, and no one has been eaten yet

[tromeokid]

i also didnt think as strongly about moving a fish into a smaller tank. I just feel that the 75 may be a bit too crowded. i have a good filter and oxygen and routine clean the tank every two weeks but i was hoping to remove a bit of stress from the 75. so if i moved the angel to the 29 gallon and kept just him would he be ok? should i have some bottom feeders just for clean up and company?

[Scuba Kid]

Personally, I think a 29 gallon is too small for angels. Also, neons would be a snack for angelfish.

[Zoe]

I too think 29 gallons is on the small side for an angelfish, but with just one, and as long as its not a "low" tank, you can get away with it.
As for the neons, I think people get the impression that neons are way smaller than they are, because they're also so small in petstores. But adult neons can grow to 1.5", which is too big normal sized angels to eat.

[emc7]

Aquarium Atlas says "veil-tailed angels" eat neons. Why them and not short-finned ones I don't know, do veiltails grow larger?. My angels coexisted with adult neons for a couple years before the angels got big enough to eat the neons. But they did eat the neons. So get cardinals or some slightly larger tetra if you can find one thats not nippy and get enough to school, that discourages predators including angels. I have one angel alone with a couple cories in a 29 and hes happy, but hes been there since I got him (still in quarantine all his siblings died mysteriously). I don't recommend putting 2 or more adult angels in a 29 unless they are a mated pair. If you do want a pair, do your match making in 75, find someone who will let you have a few adult angels and take back the jilted ones. But Zoe is right, if you get a pair, you don't keep anything else with them. I think one angel, 4 corydora, and 6 small tetra would do ok in 29 if you keep the water clean.

[Gourami Swami]

ANgels eat neons. 1.5" is still small, they can and will be eaten by a full adult angelfish.

[Zoe]

There's also the theory that if you raise a small angelfish with small tetras, they grow up thinking that the tetras aren't food. I don't know how true that is, but there you have it!

[Fishfirst]

My in laws just found that their adult angelfish after being with them for about six months with neons started picking them off... they tried adding more... - poof - gone... black neons worked though... now they have a school of black neons with the angel... and it is in my opinion that an angel will be fine in a 29 gallon long term, as my breeder friend would agree.

[oliesminis]

simple pleasure

set it up with livebearers like mollys guppys and swordtails and do something like dont have to of the same breed of the same colour. it would look great in a semi planted aquarium

[fishbguy]

big fish eat little fish...I breed feeder guppies and feed my small tropicals (black neons tetras, X-ray tetras, zebra danios, gold barbs, etc.) new born guppies and they wolf them down. i never thought that they would eat other fish but they do.