State Regulations on fish capture/release

**TheOldSalt** · 07-31-2007, 04:51 AM

We've had a bit of discussion lately regarding the release of fish into local waters, and of fishing itself. I did a little bit of digging, and found this on the North American Native Fishes Association website.

Bear in mind that many state laws are kinda screwy, ( some downright nonsense, even ) but we're stuck with them. Many of them are also too lax when it comes to the release of fish into local waters. National law, however, supercedes state laws, and as such it is not legal to release any fish into waters not it's own, and not after being held captive in a closed or open system where it could have been exposed to any other fishes or equipment used in the maintenance of other fishes. ( naturally there are a whole bunch of subsections covering the details and exceptions )

Things are only going to get worse, you know. More and more nasty new diseases and alien pests keep showing up in our waters, doing lots of damage, and rather than blame the parties most directly responsible for economic and political reasons, eco-groups and lawmakers point their grubby little fingers in the direction of least resistance, right at the fishkeepers. An easy mark for a scumbag looking for some quick feel-good votes, the aquarium hobby is at very high risk for needless regulation and restriction. If you keep birds or herps you already know just how far out of hand things can really get.
This would be a BAD thing, boys and girls, so DON'T DUMP FISH!!! EVER! NO EXCUSES!!!

The link:

http://forum.nanfa.org/index.php?showforum=1

Apotheosis · 07-31-2007, 01:25 PM

That's unfortunate. It's not my fault that some fishkeepers are stupid enough to release fish back in the wild.

Clerk · 07-31-2007, 02:06 PM

Thank you for posting this TOS

**Baby_Baby** · 07-31-2007, 10:13 PM

Thanks a lot, TOS!! Thisll definitely help some people out!!

David-P · 07-31-2007, 10:40 PM

so i have a comet i need to find a home for, as he should never have gone in my 10 gallon tank in the first place. How do i go about finding a pond to relocate him into?

Apotheosis · 07-31-2007, 10:45 PM

^Find someone who owns a pond that's willing to take it. Most people who have ponds keep goldfish or koi.

__undrestimated · 07-31-2007, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David-P

so i have a comet i need to find a home for, as he should never have gone in my 10 gallon tank in the first place. How do i go about finding a pond to relocate him into?

Find someone who has a man made pond that you could add him to. Don't put him in a natural pond or a natural body of water.

David-P · 07-31-2007, 10:51 PM

i am trying to think and i can not think of anyone who has a pond, However there is a restaurant that has a Koi & goldfish pond. I know it sounds kind of silly but i don't know what else to do with him. I do not want to take him back to the store.

Could that be an option?

Apotheosis · 07-31-2007, 10:58 PM

I suppose you could do that, if you have their permission. If you don't have room and can't find a pond for it, there's not much else you can do except return it to the store. If they won't take it, then you're really screwed. lol At that point, upgrading to a much larger tank, building a pond, or euthanizing it are the only options.

**Obsidian** · 07-31-2007, 10:59 PM

It never hurts to ask the restaurant

Probably a great option. you can also put it up for sale or trade on here (or even free) and pond owners may want to take him. There is a section for that

David-P · 07-31-2007, 11:04 PM

i also have a friend who has a larger tank something in the 30-50 gallon range that is already stocked. And from what i have heard he is planning to set up another much larger tank.

I suppose he might take a goldie

but anyway do not let me completely hijack this thread with my problems

Apotheosis · 07-31-2007, 11:07 PM

That might work, as long as he isn't keeping tropical fish.

swordtailbreedr · 08-07-2007, 01:04 PM

i bet the restraunt would take it plus you could make a post that says free on aquabid and get someone to take him

Damon · 08-07-2007, 03:11 PM

Search for a local aquarium club. Someone there will take it or at least know where you can take it.

Nautilus · 08-17-2007, 02:23 AM

So flushing dead fish down the drain is bad? Huh, no wonder my mom dump dead fish in the trash instead.

**TheOldSalt** · 08-17-2007, 01:23 PM

Wow, your mom is smart! Too bad everybody doesn't get it like she does.

Nautilus · 08-17-2007, 09:34 PM

I asked her about. She said she puts in the trash so it wouldn't waste water. *laughs*

Benty · 09-16-2007, 02:29 PM

The cannals by my house are overun with fish from all over. Besides are normal fish, we have everything from danios to neons to barbs to who knows what else. Obviously turned loose. A few times already there were fines posted about releasing fish (but how do they know who did it?!) and catching native fish for stores. When it was really bad in the winter, there was a short time where there was even a small reward for removing those fish who had been introduced. Not much but still pretty cool to get paid to get petshop fish. You could even sell them back to the store. Next weekend I'm heading to catch some small fish actually. My friend found a huge group of black mollies (sailfin mollies are native here but not black lyre ones).

ThatFishKid · 08-16-2008, 07:34 PM

where are you?! I would kill for a week of catching feral tropical fish. the worst thing we have around here is the ocasional olive green wild goldfish...which i guess is a good thing, but still, that sounds like fun.

don't get me wrong, it still makes me sick.

07-31-2007, 04:51 AM	#1
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,475	State Regulations on fish capture/release We've had a bit of discussion lately regarding the release of fish into local waters, and of fishing itself. I did a little bit of digging, and found this on the North American Native Fishes Association website. Bear in mind that many state laws are kinda screwy, ( some downright nonsense, even ) but we're stuck with them. Many of them are also too lax when it comes to the release of fish into local waters. National law, however, supercedes state laws, and as such it is not legal to release any fish into waters not it's own, and not after being held captive in a closed or open system where it could have been exposed to any other fishes or equipment used in the maintenance of other fishes. ( naturally there are a whole bunch of subsections covering the details and exceptions ) Things are only going to get worse, you know. More and more nasty new diseases and alien pests keep showing up in our waters, doing lots of damage, and rather than blame the parties most directly responsible for economic and political reasons, eco-groups and lawmakers point their grubby little fingers in the direction of least resistance, right at the fishkeepers. An easy mark for a scumbag looking for some quick feel-good votes, the aquarium hobby is at very high risk for needless regulation and restriction. If you keep birds or herps you already know just how far out of hand things can really get. This would be a BAD thing, boys and girls, so DON'T DUMP FISH!!! EVER! NO EXCUSES!!! The link: http://forum.nanfa.org/index.php?showforum=1 Last edited by TheOldSalt; 07-31-2007 at 04:55 AM.

07-31-2007, 10:13 PM	#4
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07-31-2007, 10:59 PM	#10
Obsidian Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 1,071	It never hurts to ask the restaurant Probably a great option. you can also put it up for sale or trade on here (or even free) and pond owners may want to take him. There is a section for that __________________ Obsidian 20 gallon 1 Dwarf Gourami; 5 Cherry Barbs; 7 Black Neon Tetras; 3 Peppered Cory's; 1 Albino Bristlenose Pleco (Old Blondie) 10 gallon Breaking it down for storage. 5.5 gallon Betta 100 gallon 7 giant danios; 4 Rosy Barbs, 1 German Blue Ram, 7 Julie Cory cats, 2 Burmese Loaches; 4 Zebra Danios

08-07-2007, 03:11 PM	#14
Damon Aquatic Naturalist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 14,972	Search for a local aquarium club. Someone there will take it or at least know where you can take it. __________________ For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. Member of the AGA (Aquatic Gardner's Association) Member of the IBC (International Betta Congress)

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07-31-2007, 01:25 PM	#2
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	That's unfortunate. It's not my fault that some fishkeepers are stupid enough to release fish back in the wild.

07-31-2007, 02:06 PM	#3
Clerk I Left w/ My Krew Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 471	Thank you for posting this TOS

07-31-2007, 10:40 PM	#5
David-P Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 17 Posts: 57	so i have a comet i need to find a home for, as he should never have gone in my 10 gallon tank in the first place. How do i go about finding a pond to relocate him into?

07-31-2007, 10:45 PM	#6
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	^Find someone who owns a pond that's willing to take it. Most people who have ponds keep goldfish or koi.

07-31-2007, 10:51 PM	#8
David-P Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 17 Posts: 57	i am trying to think and i can not think of anyone who has a pond, However there is a restaurant that has a Koi & goldfish pond. I know it sounds kind of silly but i don't know what else to do with him. I do not want to take him back to the store. Could that be an option?

07-31-2007, 10:58 PM	#9
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	I suppose you could do that, if you have their permission. If you don't have room and can't find a pond for it, there's not much else you can do except return it to the store. If they won't take it, then you're really screwed. lol At that point, upgrading to a much larger tank, building a pond, or euthanizing it are the only options.

07-31-2007, 11:04 PM	#11
David-P Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 17 Posts: 57	i also have a friend who has a larger tank something in the 30-50 gallon range that is already stocked. And from what i have heard he is planning to set up another much larger tank. I suppose he might take a goldie but anyway do not let me completely hijack this thread with my problems

07-31-2007, 11:07 PM	#12
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	That might work, as long as he isn't keeping tropical fish.

08-07-2007, 01:04 PM	#13
swordtailbreedr Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 398	i bet the restraunt would take it plus you could make a post that says free on aquabid and get someone to take him

08-17-2007, 01:23 PM	#16
TheOldSalt Darth Ichthyos Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,475	Wow, your mom is smart! Too bad everybody doesn't get it like she does.

08-17-2007, 09:34 PM	#17
Nautilus DIVE!!! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In a city Posts: 15	I asked her about. She said she puts in the trash so it wouldn't waste water. laughs __________________

09-16-2007, 02:29 PM	#18
Benty Temporary Noob Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Here. Age: 19 Posts: 9	The cannals by my house are overun with fish from all over. Besides are normal fish, we have everything from danios to neons to barbs to who knows what else. Obviously turned loose. A few times already there were fines posted about releasing fish (but how do they know who did it?!) and catching native fish for stores. When it was really bad in the winter, there was a short time where there was even a small reward for removing those fish who had been introduced. Not much but still pretty cool to get paid to get petshop fish. You could even sell them back to the store. Next weekend I'm heading to catch some small fish actually. My friend found a huge group of black mollies (sailfin mollies are native here but not black lyre ones). __________________ A 55 gal. planted tank, two 10's, a 2 gal. breeding tank, two 1 gal., and a bunch of bowls. I have: A placo, 9 small to medium angelfish, 2 opaline blue gourami, a gold gourmi, large platnium gourami, 2 dwarf gourami, 2 baby raphael catfish, a large, raphael catfish, 4 striped danio, 5 danio babies in a cup, 3 sword tails, 6 male bettas, and 2 female bettas.

08-16-2008, 07:34 PM	#19
ThatFishKid unknown entity Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Atlanta area Age: 17 Posts: 213	where are you?! I would kill for a week of catching feral tropical fish. the worst thing we have around here is the ocasional olive green wild goldfish...which i guess is a good thing, but still, that sounds like fun. don't get me wrong, it still makes me sick. __________________ 2 half gallon planted betta tanks Heavily planted 29 tall 2g cherry shrimp/snails heavily planted 10g fishless lightly planted tank (worms/micro organisms/inverts/algaes/ it's all just an experiment) 10g Multie. species tank (multies will be added soon.) 10g brackish (planted w/ marine algae) 10 subin firemouth lots of tubs for plant propogation and develobement. pictures: http://s533.photobucket.com/albums/e...gen/Aquariums/

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