Fresh Water Tank Buddies

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 10:43 AM

Currently I have a needle nose in a 35 gallon tank. I am wondering what fish will make good tank buddies for him(cichlids or maybe sharks?) I also have 2 common plecos but they go along fine with most fish. Thanks

__undrestimated · 07-31-2007, 10:50 AM

A 35 gallon is really small for a needlenose or common plecos, both of those can get over a foot in length, and being kept in a smaller tank can hurt their growth.

In a bigger tank you could put in things that are middle swimmers- the needle nose stay near the top and the plecos cover the bottom. Maybe some barbs?

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 10:51 AM

ok thanks and when my needle nose and common plecos get to be to big for the tank I give them to my cousins who have 3 50 gallons and 1 100 gallon tank

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 10:53 AM

would having 2 needle nose fish in a tank at the same time be a bad idea?

__undrestimated · 07-31-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by elliott03

ok thanks and when my needle nose and common plecos get to be to big for the tank I give them to my cousins who have 3 50 gallons and 1 100 gallon tank

Okay, just making sure you know!

How big is the needlefish now? They shouldn't be too agressive toward cichlids, maybe some julies if you have hiding places.

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 10:54 AM

I would say about 5-6 inches

__undrestimated · 07-31-2007, 11:01 AM

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I would say about 5-6 inches

Needlefish actually do really well in pairs, or groups, but your tank doesn't have very much surface area for more than one, if its a standard 35 that I'm thinking of.

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 11:02 AM

ok so don't get two unless I get a bigger tank. Do you know if needlefish ever breed in tanks?

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 11:08 AM

I have to get off now but let me know what kind of cichlids I should get. Petsmart makes me so mad! they keep about 20 needlefish in a 25 gallon tank at one time what jerks!!!

MaelStrom · 07-31-2007, 11:29 AM

Well they have enough filtration(usually) to do so and the fish dont spend too much time in there( hopefully they get sold or sometimes they die)

__undrestimated · 07-31-2007, 12:07 PM

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I have to get off now but let me know what kind of cichlids I should get. Petsmart makes me so mad! they keep about 20 needlefish in a 25 gallon tank at one time what jerks!!!

Funny you should say that, I'm a lead in the petsmart fish department.

The needlefish at petsmart are pretty small, and we sell them pretty fast, I'm willing to bet they are there for less than a month. We also have a hugeeee filter system, one that filters out thousands of gallons per hour, and our water quality is pristine.

It really depends on what you're looking for... Maybe some silver dollars, some severums, (cichilds) ... I'm trying to think of fish that stay on the smaller side, which have a unique shape the needlenose wouldn't try to eat. Catfish would be pretty cool too, as long as they aren't the type that get 12+ inches.
I doubt the needlefish would breed, I've never heard of anyone doing it successfully (like, as a hobby, especially in a 35g) and in order to breed some fish, you really need to manipulate their water quality and they'd need a big tank.

What is the needlenose eating? Rosies?

Danh · 07-31-2007, 12:27 PM

I wouldn't get silver dollars as they are both pretty spastic fish. I wouldn't get too many cichlids since they'll probably show them some agression.. Some small severums might be a good idea, especially since you've got bigger tanks to send them to.

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 01:38 PM

Ok how does this sound 1 needlenose 2 common plecos 2 firemouth cichlids and 2 other cichlids they might sell at Petsmart? oh and sorry about the comment about Petsmart I didn't know

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 01:45 PM

What about an Electric Blue African Cichlid?

**JustOneMore20** · 07-31-2007, 01:47 PM

Electric Blues get too large for your tank and are aggressive. The Firemouths may be ok size-wise, but I'm not sure about their aggression.

elliott03 · 07-31-2007, 01:49 PM

ok thanks can u give me some ideas about good sized not aggresive cichlids that get sold at common fish stores? thanks

BlakeDgreat · 07-31-2007, 01:56 PM

Maybe green terror, they don't get to big, and aren't known to be aggresive.

__undrestimated · 07-31-2007, 02:24 PM

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ok thanks can u give me some ideas about good sized not aggresive cichlids that get sold at common fish stores? thanks

What about black convicts? They're pretty cool. They'll breed too, maybe the needlenose can do population control.

No offense taken on the petsmart thing, haha. The electric blues are going to be too agressive. I'd stay away from African cichilds, they really are too aggressive. The firemouths would probably work, they don't get too big. Maybe two firemouths and two green terrors. But that's it, that might even be a little overstocked.

Apotheosis · 07-31-2007, 03:19 PM

My advice: Think about upgrading before getting more fish. Those needlefish will need a bigger tank.

**JustOneMore20** · 07-31-2007, 07:50 PM

I agree with Apotheosis...I'd upgrade before you add anything else. Green Terrors get too large for your tank size anyways.

If you must add something, Convicts or Firemouths should be ok. I don't recommend adding anything though, as the fish you already have will outgrow your tank.

07-31-2007, 10:43 AM	#1
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	Fresh Water Tank Buddies Currently I have a needle nose in a 35 gallon tank. I am wondering what fish will make good tank buddies for him(cichlids or maybe sharks?) I also have 2 common plecos but they go along fine with most fish. Thanks

07-31-2007, 10:50 AM	#2
__undrestimated Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 24	A 35 gallon is really small for a needlenose or common plecos, both of those can get over a foot in length, and being kept in a smaller tank can hurt their growth. In a bigger tank you could put in things that are middle swimmers- the needle nose stay near the top and the plecos cover the bottom. Maybe some barbs? __________________ Samantha 44 Pentagon: 3- Blood Parrots 2- 3 spot blue gouramis 2- glass tetras 1- remaining tiger barb 1- rainbow shark 28 bowfront: In Progress African cichlid tank 10 gallon: 4: red glass barbs Zoo: Rescues: 5 cats, 1 basset hound, 1 leopard gecko, 2 Russian hamsters, 1 firebelly toad, and 1 chinchilla. Non Rescues: 1 golden retriever/chow mix, 2 dumpy tree frogs, 1 panda hamster.

07-31-2007, 12:27 PM	#12
Danh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 24 Posts: 587	I wouldn't get silver dollars as they are both pretty spastic fish. I wouldn't get too many cichlids since they'll probably show them some agression.. Some small severums might be a good idea, especially since you've got bigger tanks to send them to. __________________ 450g-30"&20"0.bichirossum,18" cichla temX,12"p.ornatipinnis&lapradei,2x15"c.temensis,15 " c.orinocensis,12"L.platrhynchus, 30" Crock I gar 180g-10" d.pulcher,2x8"d. pulcher, 3x8"c.orinocensis, 7"jardini 90g-4"stripeneck musk turtle,8xc.macracanthus 3-7",2x7" s.tanereius 30g-2x7" a.batrachus 30g-4"p.delhezi&endlicheri, 4"m.irwini

07-31-2007, 01:47 PM	#15
JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama, US Age: 22 Posts: 3,487	Electric Blues get too large for your tank and are aggressive. The Firemouths may be ok size-wise, but I'm not sure about their aggression. __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 10g, 5.5g 10g N. multifasciatus tank, 5.5g Platy fry

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JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama, US Age: 22 Posts: 3,487	I agree with Apotheosis...I'd upgrade before you add anything else. Green Terrors get too large for your tank size anyways. If you must add something, Convicts or Firemouths should be ok. I don't recommend adding anything though, as the fish you already have will outgrow your tank. __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 10g, 5.5g 10g N. multifasciatus tank, 5.5g Platy fry

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07-31-2007, 10:51 AM	#3
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	ok thanks and when my needle nose and common plecos get to be to big for the tank I give them to my cousins who have 3 50 gallons and 1 100 gallon tank

07-31-2007, 10:53 AM	#4
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	would having 2 needle nose fish in a tank at the same time be a bad idea?

07-31-2007, 10:54 AM	#6
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	I would say about 5-6 inches

07-31-2007, 11:02 AM	#8
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	ok so don't get two unless I get a bigger tank. Do you know if needlefish ever breed in tanks?

07-31-2007, 11:08 AM	#9
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	I have to get off now but let me know what kind of cichlids I should get. Petsmart makes me so mad! they keep about 20 needlefish in a 25 gallon tank at one time what jerks!!!

07-31-2007, 11:29 AM	#10
MaelStrom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 319	Well they have enough filtration(usually) to do so and the fish dont spend too much time in there( hopefully they get sold or sometimes they die)

07-31-2007, 01:38 PM	#13
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	Ok how does this sound 1 needlenose 2 common plecos 2 firemouth cichlids and 2 other cichlids they might sell at Petsmart? oh and sorry about the comment about Petsmart I didn't know

07-31-2007, 01:45 PM	#14
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	What about an Electric Blue African Cichlid?

07-31-2007, 01:49 PM	#16
elliott03 Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 15	ok thanks can u give me some ideas about good sized not aggresive cichlids that get sold at common fish stores? thanks

07-31-2007, 01:56 PM	#17
BlakeDgreat Fishy Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 14	Maybe green terror, they don't get to big, and aren't known to be aggresive.

07-31-2007, 03:19 PM	#19
Apotheosis Adamant Minded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Location is only a matter of physical being. The perceiving mind is omnipresent. Age: 17 Posts: 352	My advice: Think about upgrading before getting more fish. Those needlefish will need a bigger tank.

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