Tiger Oscar?

anasfire23 · 08-13-2007, 07:04 AM

Ok, as in my signature I've got a 50g tank stocked with the fish listed (and temporarily 8 guppy fry) but I want to get a Tiger Oscar for my 4ft tank (yet to be set up) and was wondering if I could put the little guy into my 50g until the 4ft tank is ready. Thing is though, it could take a few months (6 at the most) and I was wondering how fast tiger oscar's grow? I know they get really big when mature but if he's not going to grow too fast then I'm guessing I could get away with having him in my 50g for a while? I'm going to start getting the items needed for the 4ft tank soon e.g. filter one week, heater next then gravel plants etc and as soon as my ex builds me a stand for it I'll be able to set it up to cycle.

Any opinions are welcome.

Thanks

Scuba Kid · 08-13-2007, 07:19 AM

No, you will most likely not get away with it. Even as young fish, they are predators and they do grow fairly quickly. I wouldn't chance it.

redpaulhus · 08-13-2007, 10:42 AM

I have to agree with Scuba - my first Oscar grew from about 1-2" to about 8" in an 8 month time period.
The tetras in the tank would be lunch sooner or later - and the Oscar may decide up uproot and move around your plants just for giggles.

Plus - I wouldn't put an oscar in a newly setup tank - I like to mature a tank for at least a few months (preferably six) before I introduce an oscar - I usually add my dither fish of choice (giant danios are good) and let everything mature before I add the big poop machine.
I hope your planning a 4' by 18" tank, not a 4' x 1' (ie 55g) tank -- an Oscar would actually do better in a 36x18" 50g than a 48x12" tank (more room to turn around, and greater surface area equals better oxygen exchange)

Clerk · 08-13-2007, 12:02 PM

I have seen quarter sized oscars triple in size in 2 months in 15 gallon tanks, in a 50, it will be even faster.

clavo · 08-13-2007, 12:29 PM

Yea i want to gdt me one too but the ppl at the petsmart said id make a quick dinner out of my bettas and crabs in less than 2 months... x-C ...damn i really want one cus iv read that they make great "pets", they learn to recognize you and eat out of your hand and are very playfull... :-c

Clerk · 08-13-2007, 01:56 PM

Plus... you have a 10 gallon...

anyway, it will be better to wait till your tank is set up.

**Obsidian** · 08-13-2007, 04:37 PM

Patience is a wonderful thing

I would be patient and wait. When the tank is ready the right fish for you will surface.

anasfire23 · 08-13-2007, 10:14 PM

When I do set the tank up I'll be using the filter from my 50g (and put the new one into my 50g) , use some of the water from my 50g and that stuff you get when u gravel vac, can't remember what it's called starts with an 'm' and apparently that's a great starter, like instant cycle! I'll let it cycle though for a few weeks anyway before adding any permanent fish, might even stick a few expendable guppy fry in there to help it along. It's a 4ft x 1ft tank I'm pretty sure..maybe even 1.5ft high..

anyhoo will keep you all up to date and let you know when it's set up!

Thanks

Gourami Swami · 08-14-2007, 10:15 AM

What size is the 4ft in gallonage? Oscars will do much better in a 75g than a 55g.

**Fishfirst** · 08-15-2007, 02:31 PM

the word your looking for is "mulm" and the oscar will only be comfortable in a tank that size til he is 6 inches or so.

anasfire23 · 08-16-2007, 10:33 AM

I've no idea how many gallons or litres it holds, I haven't filled it. It's been sitting upright on it's end in my bedroom since I got it. I just don't have a surface large or stable enough to put it on where it won't be in the way. I'm considering gently sliding it out to the garage and filling it soon, if for no reason but to check for leaks so I can seal them and they have a chance to cure before I do set it up so if/when I do that I'll take note of how much it holds and get back to you all. I was even thinking that if need be I could rearrange my tanks and use my 50g (which is shorter but a lot taller) for the tiger oscar and the 4ft tank for the inhabitants of the 50g at present. I'll have to see when the time comes i guess.

Chaos553 · 08-16-2007, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clerk

Plus... you have a 10 gallon...

hah you crack me up

yea i definitely wouldnt chance putting an oscar in your 50g only because my uncle had them a while back and they got HUGE in a 3 month time span. and they would definitely make a quick meal out of the fish inhabiting your 50g at the moment.

good luck with setting up your stand however =P

swordtailbreedr · 08-16-2007, 01:56 PM

the guy with a 10g tank has a bracksih or it should be bracksih tank as well an oscar would not work LOL

**Obsidian** · 08-16-2007, 02:27 PM

measure length width and height and post, we can tell you its gallonage

Mishy · 08-20-2007, 06:07 PM

You could try it, but your other fish would be fish food.

Clerk · 08-20-2007, 10:36 PM

This thread has already met its end and point, stop posting in it.

08-13-2007, 07:04 AM	#1
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583	Tiger Oscar? Ok, as in my signature I've got a 50g tank stocked with the fish listed (and temporarily 8 guppy fry) but I want to get a Tiger Oscar for my 4ft tank (yet to be set up) and was wondering if I could put the little guy into my 50g until the 4ft tank is ready. Thing is though, it could take a few months (6 at the most) and I was wondering how fast tiger oscar's grow? I know they get really big when mature but if he's not going to grow too fast then I'm guessing I could get away with having him in my 50g for a while? I'm going to start getting the items needed for the 4ft tank soon e.g. filter one week, heater next then gravel plants etc and as soon as my ex builds me a stand for it I'll be able to set it up to cycle. Any opinions are welcome. Thanks __________________ ~60L Planted Community Tank~ Plants: 1 x Elodea Fish: 3 Month old guppy fry, mixed sex, 4 M & 3 F guppies, 1 x 10m old M DC Fry ~Male Bettas:~ Robin - HM or Delta CT Cyborg & Slade DC Fry Braedan - CT & Proud Daddy ~Female Bettas~ Starbuck & Scarlet CT Girls 190L (50G) Planted Tank Plants: 3 x Jungle Val, 1 x Ludwidgia Fish: 6 x Harlequin Rasboras, 6 Black, 5 glowlight & 12 Neon tetras, 2 Common Pleco's

08-13-2007, 07:19 AM	#2
Scuba Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 18 Posts: 4,225	No, you will most likely not get away with it. Even as young fish, they are predators and they do grow fairly quickly. I wouldn't chance it. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

08-13-2007, 12:02 PM	#4
Clerk I Left w/ My Krew Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 471	I have seen quarter sized oscars triple in size in 2 months in 15 gallon tanks, in a 50, it will be even faster. __________________ Four Tanks 55 Gallon - Planted Display Tank 50 Gallon Community 20 Gallon - High-Light Planted Breeder 29 Gallon - Newt

08-13-2007, 12:29 PM	#5
clavo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Houston, TX Age: 19 Posts: 48	Yea i want to gdt me one too but the ppl at the petsmart said id make a quick dinner out of my bettas and crabs in less than 2 months... x-C ...damn i really want one cus iv read that they make great "pets", they learn to recognize you and eat out of your hand and are very playfull... :-c __________________ FRESHWATER BEGGINER ---------------------------- 10G TANK 2 RED CLAW CRABS(1M, 1F), 2 CROWNTAIL BETTA. 3 FEMALE BETAS, 17 GHOSTSHRIMP(1 PREGNANT), 1 VENUS FLYTRAP

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08-13-2007, 10:42 AM	#3
redpaulhus fishgeek Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boston Age: 38 Posts: 479	I have to agree with Scuba - my first Oscar grew from about 1-2" to about 8" in an 8 month time period. The tetras in the tank would be lunch sooner or later - and the Oscar may decide up uproot and move around your plants just for giggles. Plus - I wouldn't put an oscar in a newly setup tank - I like to mature a tank for at least a few months (preferably six) before I introduce an oscar - I usually add my dither fish of choice (giant danios are good) and let everything mature before I add the big poop machine. I hope your planning a 4' by 18" tank, not a 4' x 1' (ie 55g) tank -- an Oscar would actually do better in a 36x18" 50g than a 48x12" tank (more room to turn around, and greater surface area equals better oxygen exchange)

08-13-2007, 04:37 PM	#7
Obsidian Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 1,071	Patience is a wonderful thing I would be patient and wait. When the tank is ready the right fish for you will surface. __________________ Obsidian 20 gallon 1 Dwarf Gourami; 5 Cherry Barbs; 7 Black Neon Tetras; 3 Peppered Cory's; 1 Albino Bristlenose Pleco (Old Blondie) 10 gallon Breaking it down for storage. 5.5 gallon Betta 100 gallon 7 giant danios; 4 Rosy Barbs, 1 German Blue Ram, 7 Julie Cory cats, 2 Burmese Loaches; 4 Zebra Danios

08-13-2007, 10:14 PM	#8
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583	When I do set the tank up I'll be using the filter from my 50g (and put the new one into my 50g) , use some of the water from my 50g and that stuff you get when u gravel vac, can't remember what it's called starts with an 'm' and apparently that's a great starter, like instant cycle! I'll let it cycle though for a few weeks anyway before adding any permanent fish, might even stick a few expendable guppy fry in there to help it along. It's a 4ft x 1ft tank I'm pretty sure..maybe even 1.5ft high.. anyhoo will keep you all up to date and let you know when it's set up! Thanks __________________ ~60L Planted Community Tank~ Plants: 1 x Elodea Fish: 3 Month old guppy fry, mixed sex, 4 M & 3 F guppies, 1 x 10m old M DC Fry ~Male Bettas:~ Robin - HM or Delta CT Cyborg & Slade DC Fry Braedan - CT & Proud Daddy ~Female Bettas~ Starbuck & Scarlet CT Girls 190L (50G) Planted Tank Plants: 3 x Jungle Val, 1 x Ludwidgia Fish: 6 x Harlequin Rasboras, 6 Black, 5 glowlight & 12 Neon tetras, 2 Common Pleco's

08-14-2007, 10:15 AM	#9
Gourami Swami Supreme Dictator For Life Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere out Yonder... Posts: 1,110	What size is the 4ft in gallonage? Oscars will do much better in a 75g than a 55g. __________________

08-15-2007, 02:31 PM	#10
Fishfirst Fish Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Wisconsin Age: 24 Posts: 3,655 Blog Entries: 5	the word your looking for is "mulm" and the oscar will only be comfortable in a tank that size til he is 6 inches or so. __________________ 210 Gal Reef w/ 55 Gallon Sump/Fuge, 125 Gal Fish Only, 65 Gal Seahorse-29 Gallon Sump, 55 Gal FOWLR, 54 Gal Corner FW Community, 20 Gal Nano FOWLR, 55 Gal Piranha, 29 gallon QT "All the yellow tangs and clownfish in the world can't save you now! hahahah" Peter from Family Guy

08-16-2007, 10:33 AM	#11
anasfire23 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia Age: 26 Posts: 583	I've no idea how many gallons or litres it holds, I haven't filled it. It's been sitting upright on it's end in my bedroom since I got it. I just don't have a surface large or stable enough to put it on where it won't be in the way. I'm considering gently sliding it out to the garage and filling it soon, if for no reason but to check for leaks so I can seal them and they have a chance to cure before I do set it up so if/when I do that I'll take note of how much it holds and get back to you all. I was even thinking that if need be I could rearrange my tanks and use my 50g (which is shorter but a lot taller) for the tiger oscar and the 4ft tank for the inhabitants of the 50g at present. I'll have to see when the time comes i guess. __________________ ~60L Planted Community Tank~ Plants: 1 x Elodea Fish: 3 Month old guppy fry, mixed sex, 4 M & 3 F guppies, 1 x 10m old M DC Fry ~Male Bettas:~ Robin - HM or Delta CT Cyborg & Slade DC Fry Braedan - CT & Proud Daddy ~Female Bettas~ Starbuck & Scarlet CT Girls 190L (50G) Planted Tank Plants: 3 x Jungle Val, 1 x Ludwidgia Fish: 6 x Harlequin Rasboras, 6 Black, 5 glowlight & 12 Neon tetras, 2 Common Pleco's

08-16-2007, 01:56 PM	#13
swordtailbreedr Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 16 Posts: 398	the guy with a 10g tank has a bracksih or it should be bracksih tank as well an oscar would not work LOL

08-16-2007, 02:27 PM	#14
Obsidian Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 1,071	measure length width and height and post, we can tell you its gallonage __________________ Obsidian 20 gallon 1 Dwarf Gourami; 5 Cherry Barbs; 7 Black Neon Tetras; 3 Peppered Cory's; 1 Albino Bristlenose Pleco (Old Blondie) 10 gallon Breaking it down for storage. 5.5 gallon Betta 100 gallon 7 giant danios; 4 Rosy Barbs, 1 German Blue Ram, 7 Julie Cory cats, 2 Burmese Loaches; 4 Zebra Danios

08-20-2007, 06:07 PM	#15
Mishy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 16 Posts: 41	You could try it, but your other fish would be fish food. __________________ I bred BGK's in Captivity ACCIDENTLY, one of the HANDFUL of PEOPLE that HAVE The Male died shortly after though from exhaustion I believe -------------------------------------------------- Breeding Bristlenose Catfish -------------------------------------------------- Need any help on breeding livebearers or just the ups and downs on breeding Freshwater fish, Just drop me a PM. `Mishy

08-20-2007, 10:36 PM	#16
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