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03-29-2005, 07:09 PM
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do they need water bubbles/pump?
Do freshwater tropical fish need water bubbles from a pump, separate from the filter? My filter barely creates currents in the water, nor create any bubbbles. The reason I ask is because I have seen so many decorations that have a tube & stone attached for pumps. Is this just for the effect of the bubbles, or does it make the fish more active by adding more oxygen into the water? I know my goldfish tend to perk up when I have a pump running, but it may just be because it's not as peaceful and they're a bit more freaked out. lol. Please enlighten me.
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03-29-2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
depends, goldfish are cool water fish, cooler water holds more oxygen. depends on how many fish, what size tank, and what kind of filter.
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03-29-2005, 07:27 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
it seems like extra oxygen couldnt hurt. I probably would have a bubble filter for goldfish too.
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03-29-2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
Okay thanks, I'll get right on that. Now I have to go buy another pump.
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03-29-2005, 08:21 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
no, extra oxygen cannot hurt, and i just think the bubbles look neat!
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03-29-2005, 11:31 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
You know my idiot ex BF told me, that a my fish were dying because there was TOO MUCH OXYGEN in my tank?.....my god what did I see in that..(insert obscenity here) turns out the temperature guage on the heater was inacurate and my temps were at 86 or so, BAD. Probably meant there wasnt ENOUGH oxygen because of the excessive heat.
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03-30-2005, 06:00 AM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
If you have a HOB filter, odds are you don't need any extra O2 in the tank. Biowheels create more oxygen than standard HOB filters but they all produce enough from surface agitation. If you have live plants, you will not want an airstone at all.
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03-30-2005, 12:33 PM
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I have a Whisper External Power Filter and a Whisper Internal Filter
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03-30-2005, 01:36 PM
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I've read that water bubbles also refresh the water.
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03-30-2005, 02:01 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
Simpte, what's wrong with an airstone with live plants? I have a very established planted tank with a 4-inch airstone that has never seemed to hamper any growth. I also have a DIY CO2 system set up, so that might counterbalance the increase oxygen levels...just wondering about that comment.
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03-30-2005, 04:02 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
Increased co2 does not push out oxygen. but the surface aeration fromt he bubbler releases co2.
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03-30-2005, 08:07 PM
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why would an airstone only allow oxygen in the tank, I thought that it would probably boost the oxygen and the CO2
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...1 Pleco
...4 Sunshine Peacocks
...1 Altolamprologus Calvus
...1 Cyrtocara Moorii (Blue Dolphin)
...1 Julidochromis Marlieri Burundi
...1 Neolamprologus brichardi
...1 Yellow Lab
...1 Sciaenochromis fryeri (Chewere)
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03-30-2005, 09:15 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
I like the looks of them, especially when they're buried, I have a couple running along the back of my tank. I go with the it can't hurt theory, plus alot of my fish like to play in it so that might be fun for everyone. If you are going to buy a new pump you should buy one with several outlets so that if you want more in the future, buy a bigger tank, whatever, you are already all set. I am running it to that problem as we speak, so I thought I would make the suggestion!!
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03-30-2005, 09:35 PM
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Re: do they need water bubbles/pump?
I dunno. but increased co2 could also mean increased oxygen output by the plants? maybe, just thought of that, probably wrong.
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03-31-2005, 12:39 PM
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increased co2 in the plants environment does increase the oxygen output in plants if I remember my botany right.
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