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i came home from work today and noticed my tank was cloudy. i turned the light on and OH MY GOD.
it's RIDICULOUSLY cloudy, all four of my cardinals are dead( tank specs: 15 gallon tank, stocked with 5 skirt tetras, 4 cardinal tetras, 3 otos. temp 81 degrees, w/ aquaclear 30 filter. planted moderately with eco-complete substrate, flourish dosed biweekly. i immediately tested the levels: ammonia: 0 nitrite: 0.05 nitrate: i don't have a nitrate test pH: 7.2 [.6 lower than normal] CO2 concentration: 6 ppm i immediately put in an airstone, and then carefully netted out all of my skirts and ottos and put them into my 6 gallon eclipse betta tank. my betta is dwelling in his old 2.5 gallon for the time being. i moved all of the plants/rocks/driftwood into the 2.5 and the 6 as well. possible culprit: i double-dosed CO2 today. i'm trying to use up the tablets for my jungle CO2 fizz factory, and since i got no effect with 1.5 tablets, i used 3. i took the filter off the back and it's absolutely filled with greenish yellowish slime. i had to rinse the tube, the media, everything WHAT HAPPENED? what is this white crap? what can i do to save my fish? they seem to be okay, albeit a bit crowded in the 6 gallon [it's cycled, don't worry] how can i get rid of the slime floating in the water? HELP!
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I'm guessing the white crap is "dead fish fungus". Remove the corpses and siphon out the residue and it should go away. Was the filter running when you got home? Its possible the slime (some kind of algae, most likely) clogged the filter media enough to block the flow.
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I always suspect water quality over disease when several fish die at the same time with no prior symptom. However, if you find white stuff attached to still living fish it could be columnaris which kills rapidly. If you see this or other symptoms, start reading the disease sites. Otherwise, it was "just" water quality and your tank will be "fixed" by clean water and a little time. Even rinsing in warm tap water will not totally destroy the filter's colony, so it should bounce back and you won't have to "re-cycle" the tank from scratch. And if slime was restricting the water flow it needed to be done. Things like this are why I tell people to get a bigger tanks and/or fewer fish than you want. It gives you some insurance. But I don't think your 15 was overstocked, its just that smaller tanks are much more prone to pH swings (and hardness swing and temperature swings). Please think twice before trying CO2 in the 6. Last edited by emc7; 11-17-2007 at 11:26 PM. |
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I would do a water change and do NOT scrub your decorations or substrate since you did rinse out the filter. You can rinse them off and by hand remove any debris in the OLD tank water from the water change. Personally I would do this and let it run overnight and then do another W/C tomorrow and rinse things off in that water again. If the water does not start to clear I would be more concerned in terms of long term problems with the tank. If it starts to clear up then I would guess it has something to do with the tabs you used. Other than that I have no idea what would have caused this though
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pH swings from co2 (carbonic acid) don't kill fish..........and 6ppm of CO2 doesn't either.
Good info above though and I think you've done what you can do. I am not sure what those tabs are made of but it seems like they are the culprit. I don't think the pH drop or the 6ppm (if thats accurate) of co2 did it though.
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Blaming the tabs is just a guess. Hard to know what happened first. In a large tank, one fish dies and it just becomes fish food, in a small tank it sets off a chain reaction. I would also suggest adding a second filter, even just a sponge on a air pump, as insurance against mechanical failure. I've seen pH shock kill angels, but only when the pH went up suddenly (like me moving it to a another tank without testing it first). Riverine fish are usually pretty tolerant of pH swings. Cardinals should like lower pH, but you can't tell how suddenly it dropped or if it dropped further and then came back up. Its really only one possibility. How long have you had the cardinals?
Last edited by emc7; 11-18-2007 at 12:58 PM. |
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Hmmm... all this happened in one day?
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girl anachronism
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yes. i fed my fish before i left for work, the tank was perfect except for a bit of algae. i came home and it was cloudy and 4 fish were dead.
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