dwarf puffer

escape artist · 03-22-2008, 02:14 AM

hey.

i just got 7 dwarf puffer (got two for free

)
i got loads of fake plants because i heard these puffers need em'
i bought them so i can put them in a one species tank with an otto.
would that be okay?
what other special needs do they have???

escape artist · 03-22-2008, 07:43 AM

2 of them got sucked up the filter just now

i cant believe it.
fcking guppy fries didnt get sucked up the filter im using now.

Obsidian · 03-22-2008, 09:01 AM

Put a sponge over the filter intake, that will solve that problem. And then check inside the filter, they will often survive that ride and they are certainly not the first it has happened to. I had a fish jump into one of my HOB filters once.

**Ichthius** · 03-22-2008, 10:49 AM

What size tank are they in?

I'd be watching for aggressive behavior with that number. Especially if you have more than one male.

escape artist · 03-22-2008, 05:14 PM

right i changed my filter to the underwater ones.
not the ones that hang on.
and i only bought 2 males.
but i think one got sucked in

**JustOneMore20** · 03-22-2008, 05:24 PM

What size tank are these in?

Courtney · 03-22-2008, 06:30 PM

and they will eat your oto... just warning you, also usually they sell them as babies and you cant tell when they are young if they are male and female, and they dont eat flakes at all, only frozen food and snails, least thats all mine eat, other then any other fish you want to add with them,

fishboy · 03-22-2008, 06:51 PM

DPs are weak swimmers, but make fantastic pets. Be sure to cover your intake on your filter and a suggested stocking is 1 male to 2 females per 10 gallons. If you house multiple males you'll need plenty of cover and hiding places for them to set up their own territories.

As far as special needs feed them blood worms or black worms. Also, if you have any or can get any, baby to very small snails in that tank will make for some very happy puffers. If they're small enough your little guys will go right through the shells. They'll also eat brine shrimp and fish fins, which is why your oto might be at risk.

As I'm sure you know, there's plenty of information on these fish online

trashion · 03-22-2008, 07:28 PM

Nice icon, fishboy. Op Ivy rules.

fishboy · 03-22-2008, 07:50 PM

^
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(sry to the mods and escape for the off topic post)

**JustOneMore20** · 03-22-2008, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Courtney

and they will eat your oto... just warning you

Not necessarily. Otos are about the only fish that are proven to be fine with Dwarf Puffers. 99% of the time, the DPs leave them alone.

Also, to add to what Fishboy said (great info!), while they are weak swimmers, they make alot of waste so people try to put a bunch of filtration on their tanks. Its probably best just to do frequent water changes though, since they don't like alot of water movement. I suggest 2 weekly water changes of about 25-30%.

You haven't said your tank size just yet, but with 5 DPs, I hope you have atleast a 20g.....bigger is always better.

escape artist · 03-23-2008, 05:54 AM

I have a 15
I don't see a size problem my friend
kept 14 in a five gallon
and none have them died since we got
them which was just under a year ago
he also just got two f.a morrays
in a 50. They are the coolest things
ever.
haha
anyway thanks for all the good tips

Ps sorry for the late reply been busy
being Easter and things

oliesminis · 03-23-2008, 03:32 PM

a 15 gallon for 7 dwarf puffers isnt enough for them

firstly they wont have enough room to establish teritorys which will make them agressive and attack others

second of all with that amount of puffers in a tank they will quickley become stunted

-olie

p.s i think this info is right

**JustOneMore20** · 03-23-2008, 04:53 PM

Since you only have 5 now a 15g should be ok. 20g would be a better minimum....and if you want more than that, you need a bigger tank. Change out water frequently (twice a week) since they are messy. Make sure you have alot of decorations in the tank to break up sight lines. They are aggressive to be so small.

14 in a 5g is insane. I would just keep 1 in a 5g. Its not big enough for more than that. They will eventually kill each other.......tell your friend they need to read up on fish they keep. He/she needs atleast a 40g for that many of them.

karazy · 03-23-2008, 04:57 PM

i think for 5 a 15 sounds good. especialy because a 15 is a bit longer it gives more room for territory

escape artist · 03-23-2008, 07:28 PM

oh yeah guys another question.
i heard that DP need snails at least once a week.
and i want to start breeding my own snails.
how do i do that???

escape artist · 03-23-2008, 07:44 PM

also
do DP "pufff up?"

**Scuba Kid** · 03-23-2008, 07:57 PM

Refer to this site for everything you need to know about DPs. Look around the feeding section, I believe there are a few links on breeding snails. http://dwarfpuffers.com/

No, DPs do not "puff up."

escape artist · 03-23-2008, 08:00 PM

yeh links inside the website dont work.

**Scuba Kid** · 03-23-2008, 08:51 PM

Read this.

http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums...ad.php?t=50912

Found using Google by the way....It is your best friend.

03-22-2008, 02:14 AM	#1
escape artist Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 47	dwarf puffer hey. i just got 7 dwarf puffer (got two for free) i got loads of fake plants because i heard these puffers need em' i bought them so i can put them in a one species tank with an otto. would that be okay? what other special needs do they have???

03-22-2008, 09:01 AM	#3
Obsidian Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 998	Put a sponge over the filter intake, that will solve that problem. And then check inside the filter, they will often survive that ride and they are certainly not the first it has happened to. I had a fish jump into one of my HOB filters once. __________________ Obsidian 20 gallon 1 Dwarf Gourami; 6 Cherry Barbs 4F 2M; 8 Black Neon Tetras; 3 Peppered Cory's; 1 Bristlenose Pleco 10 gallon 5 Zebra Danios 5.5 gallon Betta 100 gallon 8 giant danios; 4 Rosy Barbs, 2 German Blue Rams, 5 Julie Cory cats, 2 Burmese Loaches

03-22-2008, 10:49 AM	#4
Ichthius Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Age: 18 Posts: 749	What size tank are they in? I'd be watching for aggressive behavior with that number. Especially if you have more than one male. __________________ - Leah -

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JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama, US Age: 22 Posts: 3,490	What size tank are these in? __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 10g, 5.5g 10g N. multifasciatus tank, 5.5g Platy fry

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Courtney Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rogers, Ohio, USA Age: 25 Posts: 260	and they will eat your oto... just warning you, also usually they sell them as babies and you cant tell when they are young if they are male and female, and they dont eat flakes at all, only frozen food and snails, least thats all mine eat, other then any other fish you want to add with them, __________________ http://monsters.rockyou.com/google_a...hp?i=167441100 Last edited by Courtney; 03-22-2008 at 06:33 PM.

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03-22-2008, 07:43 AM	#2
escape artist Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 47	2 of them got sucked up the filter just now i cant believe it. fcking guppy fries didnt get sucked up the filter im using now.

03-22-2008, 05:14 PM	#5
escape artist Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 47	right i changed my filter to the underwater ones. not the ones that hang on. and i only bought 2 males. but i think one got sucked in

03-22-2008, 06:51 PM	#8
fishboy Custom User Title Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 1,656	DPs are weak swimmers, but make fantastic pets. Be sure to cover your intake on your filter and a suggested stocking is 1 male to 2 females per 10 gallons. If you house multiple males you'll need plenty of cover and hiding places for them to set up their own territories. As far as special needs feed them blood worms or black worms. Also, if you have any or can get any, baby to very small snails in that tank will make for some very happy puffers. If they're small enough your little guys will go right through the shells. They'll also eat brine shrimp and fish fins, which is why your oto might be at risk. As I'm sure you know, there's plenty of information on these fish online __________________ It is only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything Last edited by fishboy; 03-22-2008 at 09:27 PM.

03-22-2008, 07:28 PM	#9
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,163	Nice icon, fishboy. Op Ivy rules. __________________ current setup: 5.5 gallon low-light planted tank -1 dwarf puffer named Beep. for reference: my name is Julie

03-22-2008, 07:50 PM	#10
fishboy Custom User Title Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 16 Posts: 1,656	^ new best friend (sry to the mods and escape for the off topic post) __________________ It is only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

03-23-2008, 05:54 AM	#12
escape artist Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 47	I have a 15 I don't see a size problem my friend kept 14 in a five gallon and none have them died since we got them which was just under a year ago he also just got two f.a morrays in a 50. They are the coolest things ever. haha anyway thanks for all the good tips Ps sorry for the late reply been busy being Easter and things

03-23-2008, 03:32 PM	#13
oliesminis FISH ARE FREINDS NOT FOOD Join Date: May 2007 Location: England, Milton Keynes Age: 15 Posts: 496	a 15 gallon for 7 dwarf puffers isnt enough for them firstly they wont have enough room to establish teritorys which will make them agressive and attack others second of all with that amount of puffers in a tank they will quickley become stunted -olie p.s i think this info is right __________________ OllieCoxPhotography

03-23-2008, 04:53 PM	#14
JustOneMore20 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama, US Age: 22 Posts: 3,490	Since you only have 5 now a 15g should be ok. 20g would be a better minimum....and if you want more than that, you need a bigger tank. Change out water frequently (twice a week) since they are messy. Make sure you have alot of decorations in the tank to break up sight lines. They are aggressive to be so small. 14 in a 5g is insane. I would just keep 1 in a 5g. Its not big enough for more than that. They will eventually kill each other.......tell your friend they need to read up on fish they keep. He/she needs atleast a 40g for that many of them. __________________ *Kristin* 5 Planted tanks: 55g, 40g, 29g, 10g, 5.5g 10g N. multifasciatus tank, 5.5g Platy fry

03-23-2008, 04:57 PM	#15
karazy bammin like salmon Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 563	i think for 5 a 15 sounds good. especialy because a 15 is a bit longer it gives more room for territory __________________

03-23-2008, 07:28 PM	#16
escape artist Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 47	oh yeah guys another question. i heard that DP need snails at least once a week. and i want to start breeding my own snails. how do i do that???

03-23-2008, 07:44 PM	#17
escape artist Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 47	also do DP "pufff up?"

03-23-2008, 07:57 PM	#18
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,162	Refer to this site for everything you need to know about DPs. Look around the feeding section, I believe there are a few links on breeding snails. http://dwarfpuffers.com/ No, DPs do not "puff up." __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

03-23-2008, 08:00 PM	#19
escape artist Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 47	yeh links inside the website dont work.

03-23-2008, 08:51 PM	#20
Scuba Kid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RI Age: 17 Posts: 4,162	Read this. http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums...ad.php?t=50912 Found using Google by the way....It is your best friend. __________________ Current setups: 1800 gallon koi pond, 10 gallon planted, 150 gallon reef, other FOWLR tanks

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