ammonia present help!!!

tenaj-6 · 07-09-2008, 02:51 PM

my ammonia test says ive 0.2 mg/l.

how can i reduce this?

my tank is 30 gallon

1 rtbs
2 neon tetra
2 clown loach
2 red zebras
2 plecos
2 giant danios and a betta.

Blue Cray · 07-09-2008, 02:56 PM

well for one non of your fish belong in that tank except the betta and the tetras, the rtbs, red zebras, clown loaches, and depending on what type of pleco all need much larger tanks and the rtbs and red zebras can get very agressive. What size are the fish? They could be creating to much waste and if you dont keep up on your water changes or course the amonia will rise. I suggest rehoming the red zebras and one pleco for now and getting a bigger tank for the rest of your fish.

emc7 · 07-09-2008, 03:02 PM

change water

tenaj-6 · 07-09-2008, 03:18 PM

i done a 50% yesterday.

sneasle · 07-09-2008, 04:07 PM

Its time to take some fish back to the LFS or get another tank.

Otherwise, be ready to do 50% changed bi weekly, maybe more frequently.

emc7 · 07-09-2008, 04:28 PM

new tank? or new fish?

tenaj-6 · 07-09-2008, 04:47 PM

ive a 55 gallon cycling at the moment. and im gonna rehouse the red zebras the rtbs and a pleco. the clowns are small less than an inch. the largest is the rtbs shes about 2 inches.

emc7 · 07-09-2008, 05:39 PM

I mean is the tank new or have you added fish to it? In other words, does the tank with the ammonia need cycling or does it have a permanent problem like an undersized filter or too-many fish. An established tank shouldn't ever have ammonia.

**lohachata** · 07-09-2008, 08:17 PM

have you talked to your fish??did they say anything?
do they have burns on them?are they showing signs of distress?did you smell the water?is there any scent of ammonia there?
forget about the test kit......what are your fish telling you??????

Ocellaris><>! · 07-10-2008, 01:44 AM

do a water change a 30% water change will help. and have you tried talking to your LFS about your situation they can recommend products that help ill check tomorrow at the LFS i work at products you could use to lower ur ammonia. hope i help

tenaj-6 · 07-10-2008, 04:51 AM

my fish seem fine. i think i may be overfeeding them. ill do a 30% change today and do a gravel vac.
the tank is established. i tested my tapwater and its present in that also in the same amounts. thats most likely the problem yes?

COM · 07-10-2008, 10:02 AM

[quote=Ocellaris><>!;181835products you could use to lower ur ammonia. [/QUOTE]

There are no products that truly 'lower' ammonia. There are products that lock it up and make it less toxic.

The solution is to get your nitrifying bacteria colonies established. They'll take care of the ammonia for you.

Some good 'ol AmmoChips help a bit too.

tenaj-6 · 07-10-2008, 12:57 PM

thanks for the help

Ocellaris><>! · 07-10-2008, 01:12 PM

be carefull over feeding raises phosphate lvls well are you useing flake food or frozen? if useing flake be carefull. hope i helped

tenaj-6 · 07-10-2008, 01:25 PM

i use granules and flake.

Obsidian · 07-10-2008, 09:35 PM

Just FYI. If you are doing water changes and the water you put IN is at 0.2 then you will not see a reduction in ammonia because you are putting in as much as you are removing.

Give it at least 24 hours and test again. The nitrifying bacteria should be able to handle that level of ammonia in that amount of time.

If the tap water ammonia levels are new that could explain your problem. If it is not new then an established tank should have a bacteria base to handle it since it will have been put in with each water change. It would still take 24 hours to convert it, or close to that.

trashion · 07-10-2008, 09:39 PM

Try using a water conditioner like Seachem's AmQuel Plus. It removes ammonia (but it smells so gross)

Obsidian · 07-10-2008, 10:14 PM

It does not remove the ammonia itself. It locks it up so it is not harmful.

**lohachata** · 07-10-2008, 11:27 PM

i use a product that completely neutralizes ammonia as well as removing chlorine and chloramines and promotes the production of the fishes protective body slime.but it is only available on a commercial level and in bulk quantities.it is an excellent product and is safe for fresh and salt water..it is also safe to use on fish intended for human consumption..i have been thinking of making it available for sale in small quantities to those that don't need 10 pounds of it.i would have to do a little research;but it would most likely be sold in 4 oz containeres for about $6 each..4 oz will treat about 940 gallons.
if anyone is interested,let me know and i will see about getting it out..

COM · 07-10-2008, 11:45 PM

You can sign me up for at least $4 worth.

Actually, even if you decide not to split up the stuff, PM me and I'll buy some wholesale. Probably a decade's worth.

07-09-2008, 02:51 PM	#1
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	ammonia present help!!! my ammonia test says ive 0.2 mg/l. how can i reduce this? my tank is 30 gallon 1 rtbs 2 neon tetra 2 clown loach 2 red zebras 2 plecos 2 giant danios and a betta.

07-09-2008, 02:56 PM	#2
Blue Cray Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 17 Posts: 515	well for one non of your fish belong in that tank except the betta and the tetras, the rtbs, red zebras, clown loaches, and depending on what type of pleco all need much larger tanks and the rtbs and red zebras can get very agressive. What size are the fish? They could be creating to much waste and if you dont keep up on your water changes or course the amonia will rise. I suggest rehoming the red zebras and one pleco for now and getting a bigger tank for the rest of your fish. __________________ 55g Planted -golden zebra danios -striped raphael catfish -angelfish -bronze cories -gold gourami -SAE -brochis catfish -Boeseman's Rainbowfish -Flying Foxes -BGK -kribensis 22g Planted -zebra loach -glo lite tetras 5g Semi Planted -endlers

07-09-2008, 08:17 PM	#9
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 654	have you talked to your fish??did they say anything? do they have burns on them?are they showing signs of distress?did you smell the water?is there any scent of ammonia there? forget about the test kit......what are your fish telling you?????? __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-10-2008, 01:44 AM	#10
Ocellaris><>! Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota,USA Posts: 21	do a water change a 30% water change will help. and have you tried talking to your LFS about your situation they can recommend products that help ill check tomorrow at the LFS i work at products you could use to lower ur ammonia. hope i help __________________ Ocellaris><>!

07-10-2008, 04:51 AM	#11
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	my fish seem fine. i think i may be overfeeding them. ill do a 30% change today and do a gravel vac. the tank is established. i tested my tapwater and its present in that also in the same amounts. thats most likely the problem yes? Last edited by tenaj-6; 07-10-2008 at 04:53 AM.

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07-09-2008, 03:02 PM	#3
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,624	change water

07-09-2008, 03:18 PM	#4
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	i done a 50% yesterday.

07-09-2008, 04:07 PM	#5
sneasle Airplane Nut Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auburn, AL Age: 21 Posts: 186	Its time to take some fish back to the LFS or get another tank. Otherwise, be ready to do 50% changed bi weekly, maybe more frequently.

07-09-2008, 04:28 PM	#6
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,624	new tank? or new fish?

07-09-2008, 04:47 PM	#7
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	ive a 55 gallon cycling at the moment. and im gonna rehouse the red zebras the rtbs and a pleco. the clowns are small less than an inch. the largest is the rtbs shes about 2 inches.

07-09-2008, 05:39 PM	#8
emc7 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 3,624	I mean is the tank new or have you added fish to it? In other words, does the tank with the ammonia need cycling or does it have a permanent problem like an undersized filter or too-many fish. An established tank shouldn't ever have ammonia.

07-10-2008, 10:02 AM	#12
COM Rebel Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 753	[quote=Ocellaris><>!;181835products you could use to lower ur ammonia. [/QUOTE] There are no products that truly 'lower' ammonia. There are products that lock it up and make it less toxic. The solution is to get your nitrifying bacteria colonies established. They'll take care of the ammonia for you. Some good 'ol AmmoChips help a bit too.

07-10-2008, 12:57 PM	#13
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	thanks for the help

07-10-2008, 01:12 PM	#14
Ocellaris><>! Fishy Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota,USA Posts: 21	be carefull over feeding raises phosphate lvls well are you useing flake food or frozen? if useing flake be carefull. hope i helped __________________ Ocellaris><>!

07-10-2008, 01:25 PM	#15
tenaj-6 creeping death Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cork, ireland Age: 22 Posts: 104	i use granules and flake.

07-10-2008, 09:35 PM	#16
Obsidian Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 1,058	Just FYI. If you are doing water changes and the water you put IN is at 0.2 then you will not see a reduction in ammonia because you are putting in as much as you are removing. Give it at least 24 hours and test again. The nitrifying bacteria should be able to handle that level of ammonia in that amount of time. If the tap water ammonia levels are new that could explain your problem. If it is not new then an established tank should have a bacteria base to handle it since it will have been put in with each water change. It would still take 24 hours to convert it, or close to that. __________________ Obsidian 20 gallon 1 Dwarf Gourami; 5 Cherry Barbs; 7 Black Neon Tetras; 3 Peppered Cory's; 1 Albino Bristlenose Pleco (Old Blondie) 10 gallon Breaking it down for storage. 5.5 gallon Betta 100 gallon 7 giant danios; 4 Rosy Barbs, 1 German Blue Ram, 7 Julie Cory cats, 2 Burmese Loaches; 4 Zebra Danios

07-10-2008, 09:39 PM	#17
trashion girl anachronism Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,409	Try using a water conditioner like Seachem's AmQuel Plus. It removes ammonia (but it smells so gross) __________________ current setup: 5.5 gallon low-light planted tank -nothing....thinking a mini-community. for reference: my name is Julie

07-10-2008, 10:14 PM	#18
Obsidian Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 1,058	It does not remove the ammonia itself. It locks it up so it is not harmful. __________________ Obsidian 20 gallon 1 Dwarf Gourami; 5 Cherry Barbs; 7 Black Neon Tetras; 3 Peppered Cory's; 1 Albino Bristlenose Pleco (Old Blondie) 10 gallon Breaking it down for storage. 5.5 gallon Betta 100 gallon 7 giant danios; 4 Rosy Barbs, 1 German Blue Ram, 7 Julie Cory cats, 2 Burmese Loaches; 4 Zebra Danios

07-10-2008, 11:27 PM	#19
lohachata Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Age: 63 Posts: 654	i use a product that completely neutralizes ammonia as well as removing chlorine and chloramines and promotes the production of the fishes protective body slime.but it is only available on a commercial level and in bulk quantities.it is an excellent product and is safe for fresh and salt water..it is also safe to use on fish intended for human consumption..i have been thinking of making it available for sale in small quantities to those that don't need 10 pounds of it.i would have to do a little research;but it would most likely be sold in 4 oz containeres for about $6 each..4 oz will treat about 940 gallons. if anyone is interested,let me know and i will see about getting it out.. __________________ if we ignore nature;maybe it will go away 10 gallon..nothing but air 10 gallon...just more air 10 gallon...stale air just don't ask about the rest

07-10-2008, 11:45 PM	#20
COM Rebel Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 753	You can sign me up for at least $4 worth. Actually, even if you decide not to split up the stuff, PM me and I'll buy some wholesale. Probably a decade's worth.

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